This health care reform debate is crazy!
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='977980' date='Aug 16 2009, 12:05 AM
1) when did I ever mention selling my BMW to pay for my knees, as I said I have had the surgeries already. My knees are fine - again showing you're a moron.
How about you go git yoself one of them nice F-250's that way you don't have to pretend to mod a 5er - it deserves better than Nebraska anyway
How about you go git yoself one of them nice F-250's that way you don't have to pretend to mod a 5er - it deserves better than Nebraska anyway
it deserves better than nebraska anyway? WHAT? keep em comin'
2. I have more mods then you do. My car is newer, with less miles, cost more then yours did. Funny how you talk about pretending to mod yet your sig says your car is sport and premium package yet your sport package came with chrome trim. Keep em comin' your killin me.
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='977987' date='Aug 16 2009, 01:11 AM
Agreed
BTW aren't you a doc?
BTW aren't you a doc?
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Originally Posted by MiamiPhill' post='977989' date='Aug 15 2009, 10:12 PM
Critical Care RN.
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='977983' date='Aug 16 2009, 12:07 AM
Sorry Phil, but like I said I am sick and tired of getting attacked when the convo gets good by this moronic imbecile of a back country inbred reject
You, Steven, John, and Roger start the convo going in the right direction and suddenly I'm interrupted by the goober they find everytime there's a UFO sighting
You, Steven, John, and Roger start the convo going in the right direction and suddenly I'm interrupted by the goober they find everytime there's a UFO sighting
You are a funny little guy. You talk about smearing the topic yet your the one smearing it. I simply asked you not to suggest stupid things in a serious discussion. Im not the one that came in suggesting trading medical services for farm animals. If that were the case i think i would have access to amazing health care because im just a inbred, backwards ass hick from middle america right?
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='977976' date='Aug 15 2009, 10:02 PM
Again, someone who seems to know me better than I know myself. I do not listen to Hannity nor do I like , he is a hypocrite. He espouses freedom, privatization and calls himself a conservative yet does advertising for GM.
Steve, you have yet to answer how gov't, with it's proven track record of complete and utter failure, is somehow going to pull off national healthcare.
Steve, you have yet to answer how gov't, with it's proven track record of complete and utter failure, is somehow going to pull off national healthcare.
Much of the opposition to the plan is trying to misrepresent the experience in other countries that have public care or the public option.
One of my favorites was a story this week that ran in the Investor's Business Daily. It was picked up by a lot of the usual suspects.
In it, they made the following statement:
?People such as scientist Stephen Hawking wouldn?t have a chance in the U.K., where the National Health Service would say the life of this brilliant man, because of his physical handicaps, is essentially worthless,?
Rather unfortunately, they failed to realize that Professor Hawking is actually British, has lived there all his life, and personally attributes the NHS as the reason he's still with us.
As the great man himself said, ?I wouldn?t be here today if it were not for the NHS. I have received a large amount of high-quality treatment without which I would not have survived.?
My point in mentioning this is simple. The amount of misinformation and misrepresentation on this topic is little short of a disgrace. And in my judgment, while both sides have some culpability, the vast majority of those who are (and I am trying to be reasonably gracious here) being "economical with the truth" tend to be those towards the conservative end of the political spectrum.
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Originally Posted by pjinca' post='977990' date='Aug 16 2009, 01:13 AM
Ah so in other words you know more than most docs Gotcha
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Originally Posted by MiamiPhill' post='977995' date='Aug 15 2009, 10:21 PM
.......John, like I said, you're unto something with the HSA but clear up something before we move on.....should there be insurance or not.
Clearly, insurance is the single biggest racket there is, they will no relinquish power willingly. We need, at minimum, the Gov't to step in with regulations to force insurers to cover pre-existing conditions, end-of-life care, and serious illness. The status quo must end.
If we maintain a "for profit" healthcare system far too many Americans will continue to die unnecessarily
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Originally Posted by MiamiPhill' post='977995' date='Aug 16 2009, 12:21 AM
.......John, like I said, you're unto something with the HSA but clear up something before we move on.....should there be insurance or not.
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='977998' date='Aug 15 2009, 10:27 PM
Yes, I do believe one should have catastrophic coverage in addition to an HSA.
The problem is, how long the insurance company will keep sustaining care if you have, say, cancer? You know as well as I do - the second they think they will lose $$ covering you they will drop you like a hot stone.