Formula One 2008 (Rd.16, JAPANESE GRAND PRIX)
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Friday analysis
McLaren lead the way in HungaryA dusty surface and high ambient and track temperatures created the usual first-day problems for all of the teams on Friday at the Hungaroring, requiring them to chase set-ups as grip improved all through the two practice sessions. At the end of it, McLaren once again set the benchmark, with championship leader Lewis Hamilton clocking the fastest overall time. Renault, however, also caught the eye, with their R28 showing some impressive speed behind the silver cars. We take a team-by-team look at the early progress in Budapest?
McLaren
Lewis Hamilton, 1m 21.535s, P4s, P/1m 20.554s, P1
Heikki Kovalainen, 1m 21.410s, P3/1m 20.760s, P3
McLaren brought along new noses with Honda-style upper wings, and Hamilton said that they made the car feel better balanced after trying them in the afternoon. He had no problem setting the fastest time in that session, while Kovalainen similarly praised the balance and said he had opted to conserve tyres rather than go for outright lap times. McLaren look pretty good so far.
Renault
Fernando Alonso, 1m 21.802s, P5/1m 20.928s, P4
Nelson Piquet, 1m 22.326s, P8/1m 20.748s, P2
Renault believe they are once again moving in the right direction with their R28. Both Alonso and Piquet reported that it reacted well to set-up changes throughout the day, and that their running had been productive.
Ferrari
Kimi Raikkonen, 1m 21.345s, P2/1m 21.009s, P5
Felipe Massa, 1m 20.981s, P1/1m 21.010, P6
Massa reported that his Ferrari felt better on Bridgestone?s harder tyre, and said it was hard to figure out just where they were in comparison with McLaren. Both F2008s ran the new sharkfin engine cover, but Raikkonen said it was difficult to quantify its overall contribution. The general feeling in the camp was that McLaren are very strong again here.
BMW Sauber
Nick Heidfeld, 1m 22.370s, P9/1m 21.138s, P7
Robert Kubica, 1m 22.267s, P7/1m 21.363s, P8
BMW Sauber had one of their usual Fridays, turning initial balance problems into something more positive by the end of the afternoon session. In common with most runners, they experienced some tyre graining, but Heidfeld in particular found that some major set-up changes late in the afternoon had a beneficial effect.
McLaren lead the way in HungaryA dusty surface and high ambient and track temperatures created the usual first-day problems for all of the teams on Friday at the Hungaroring, requiring them to chase set-ups as grip improved all through the two practice sessions. At the end of it, McLaren once again set the benchmark, with championship leader Lewis Hamilton clocking the fastest overall time. Renault, however, also caught the eye, with their R28 showing some impressive speed behind the silver cars. We take a team-by-team look at the early progress in Budapest?
McLaren
Lewis Hamilton, 1m 21.535s, P4s, P/1m 20.554s, P1
Heikki Kovalainen, 1m 21.410s, P3/1m 20.760s, P3
McLaren brought along new noses with Honda-style upper wings, and Hamilton said that they made the car feel better balanced after trying them in the afternoon. He had no problem setting the fastest time in that session, while Kovalainen similarly praised the balance and said he had opted to conserve tyres rather than go for outright lap times. McLaren look pretty good so far.
Renault
Fernando Alonso, 1m 21.802s, P5/1m 20.928s, P4
Nelson Piquet, 1m 22.326s, P8/1m 20.748s, P2
Renault believe they are once again moving in the right direction with their R28. Both Alonso and Piquet reported that it reacted well to set-up changes throughout the day, and that their running had been productive.
Ferrari
Kimi Raikkonen, 1m 21.345s, P2/1m 21.009s, P5
Felipe Massa, 1m 20.981s, P1/1m 21.010, P6
Massa reported that his Ferrari felt better on Bridgestone?s harder tyre, and said it was hard to figure out just where they were in comparison with McLaren. Both F2008s ran the new sharkfin engine cover, but Raikkonen said it was difficult to quantify its overall contribution. The general feeling in the camp was that McLaren are very strong again here.
BMW Sauber
Nick Heidfeld, 1m 22.370s, P9/1m 21.138s, P7
Robert Kubica, 1m 22.267s, P7/1m 21.363s, P8
BMW Sauber had one of their usual Fridays, turning initial balance problems into something more positive by the end of the afternoon session. In common with most runners, they experienced some tyre graining, but Heidfeld in particular found that some major set-up changes late in the afternoon had a beneficial effect.
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Damn, Heidfeld did not make it out of Q1. 1:21.045, good for only 16th on the grid.
Kubica into Q3 but only 7th fastest with a 1:19.776 in Q2.
Kubica into Q3 but only 7th fastest with a 1:19.776 in Q2.
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Final Qualifying positions in Hungary:
1. Hamilton (McLaren)
2. Kovalainen (McLaren)
3. Massa (Ferrari)
4. Kubica (BMW Sauber)
5. Glock (Toyota)
6. Raikkonen (Ferrari)
7. Alonso (Renault)
1. Hamilton (McLaren)
2. Kovalainen (McLaren)
3. Massa (Ferrari)
4. Kubica (BMW Sauber)
5. Glock (Toyota)
6. Raikkonen (Ferrari)
7. Alonso (Renault)
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Originally Posted by MiamiPhill' post='638012' date='Aug 2 2008, 03:52 PM
Damn, Heidfeld did not make it out of Q1. 1:21.045, good for only 16th on the grid.
Kubica into Q3 but only 7th fastest with a 1:19.776 in Q2.
Kubica into Q3 but only 7th fastest with a 1:19.776 in Q2.
Either way you watch and see how tomorrow he will end in points That is if no one will crash into him.
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is that Massa or did they slip MS in the car.?
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Report: Ferrari wants Alonso and Kubica for 2010
With both Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa contracted with Ferrari through next year, reports are circulating that the Scuderia may bring on board both Fernando Alonso and Robert Kubica for 2010.
After Kimi and Felipe, and with Lewis Hamilton firmly in place at McLaren, the pairing of Alonso and Kubica in Maranello would provide a formidable team against the rest of the field. Alonso, of course, is a two-time world champion and one of the only drivers to repeatedly beat Schumacher to the title, while Kubica has proven himself a competent driver of the highest degree. Whether the reports are accurate, and whether Ferrari would just dump Kimi and Felipe like that remains to be seen.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/14/report-...ubica-for-2010/
Alonso in a Ferrari would be deadly. He has the championship experience and is possibly the best talent out there.
With both Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa contracted with Ferrari through next year, reports are circulating that the Scuderia may bring on board both Fernando Alonso and Robert Kubica for 2010.
After Kimi and Felipe, and with Lewis Hamilton firmly in place at McLaren, the pairing of Alonso and Kubica in Maranello would provide a formidable team against the rest of the field. Alonso, of course, is a two-time world champion and one of the only drivers to repeatedly beat Schumacher to the title, while Kubica has proven himself a competent driver of the highest degree. Whether the reports are accurate, and whether Ferrari would just dump Kimi and Felipe like that remains to be seen.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/14/report-...ubica-for-2010/
Alonso in a Ferrari would be deadly. He has the championship experience and is possibly the best talent out there.
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Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC' post='647936' date='Aug 16 2008, 09:23 AM
Report: Ferrari wants Alonso and Kubica for 2010
With both Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa contracted with Ferrari through next year, reports are circulating that the Scuderia may bring on board both Fernando Alonso and Robert Kubica for 2010.
After Kimi and Felipe, and with Lewis Hamilton firmly in place at McLaren, the pairing of Alonso and Kubica in Maranello would provide a formidable team against the rest of the field. Alonso, of course, is a two-time world champion and one of the only drivers to repeatedly beat Schumacher to the title, while Kubica has proven himself a competent driver of the highest degree. Whether the reports are accurate, and whether Ferrari would just dump Kimi and Felipe like that remains to be seen.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/14/report-...ubica-for-2010/
Alonso in a Ferrari would be deadly. He has the championship experience and is possibly the best talent out there.
With both Kimi Raikkonen and Felipe Massa contracted with Ferrari through next year, reports are circulating that the Scuderia may bring on board both Fernando Alonso and Robert Kubica for 2010.
After Kimi and Felipe, and with Lewis Hamilton firmly in place at McLaren, the pairing of Alonso and Kubica in Maranello would provide a formidable team against the rest of the field. Alonso, of course, is a two-time world champion and one of the only drivers to repeatedly beat Schumacher to the title, while Kubica has proven himself a competent driver of the highest degree. Whether the reports are accurate, and whether Ferrari would just dump Kimi and Felipe like that remains to be seen.
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/14/report-...ubica-for-2010/
Alonso in a Ferrari would be deadly. He has the championship experience and is possibly the best talent out there.
BMW should aim at that duo, and BMW should strive to get better results. IF BMW looses Kubica i think that would mean a major step back having probably worse drivers which would mean they would have to compensate with the car, thing that i don't see happening since the car has already issues and needs to be further improved.
Alonso will be a great addition to the team, replacing old and might i say unmotivated Heidfeld.