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DD_545i - with all due respect, given the hardware that you have bought (most particularly the Archos, Samsung), you're rather obviously more of a low-end consumer happy to settle for lower cost generic products - and there are plenty of products out there for you to choose from. If you're happy with an old Samsung MP3 player or an Archos video player, these products really aren't aimed at you. All of us vote with our wallets, and you can buy cheaper if you're so inclined. The fact that a product isn't right for you, or the fact that you're not a consumer in the target demographic, doesn't mean that the product has a design flaw. It simply means that the product wasn't built with you in mind. Apple isn't after those who settle for the bland or those on a budget. I'll concede that the very latest generation of Archos players are an improvement but the prior generation (the 604, 605, 704 and 705 etc), which have only recently been discontinued, were clunky, unintuitive and crippled by a shockingly poor user interface.
The Samsung device is long since dead. I was just mentioning that I'd had MP3 players from them back in 2000/2001 before the iPod existed. At the time they were the best player you could buy. These days I listen to MP3s on the go via my Nokia N95.
There is a large market of potential high-end consumers out there that want something better than the i-gadgets and Apple could reach them if they wanted to, but they see their current success level as being the justification and verification that what they're doing is right. They don't realize they could do twice as much business.
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Hi
I was thinking to buy a DVD player for kids on rear seats... but iPad would be a nice video player with its LED screen and high view angle !
Bad news for France: no price nor availability... but price is usually higher than a simple currency change rate when products are sold in France![Frown](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/sad.gif)
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I was thinking to buy a DVD player for kids on rear seats... but iPad would be a nice video player with its LED screen and high view angle !
Bad news for France: no price nor availability... but price is usually higher than a simple currency change rate when products are sold in France
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I dunno... I personally think it's a glorified gigantica iPod Touch.
And $499 is the absolute low model: little memory, and no 3G. (And of course, Apple will milk you for all your worth for accessories)
And $499 is the absolute low model: little memory, and no 3G. (And of course, Apple will milk you for all your worth for accessories)
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yeah, although multi tasking should be a feature requiring little more than a software-enable. The iPad is running OS 3.2 but OS4 is already being spotted in the wild and may well be released before these devices hit the shelves - who knows if extra features may be added before we even get our hands on one. As for Flash, the world is moving away from it and migrating to HTML5 but right now I do agree it would be nice. There is a Java-based Flash emulator that runs on the iPhone OS already, with the extra horsepower in the iPad that may also be a viable option. Adobe has always done a piss-poor job with Flash on the Mac and to some extent I suspect that's driving Apple to dig in their heels.
I bet you that they'll be coming out with a "new generation" iPad that does multi-tasking in the foreseeable future. Which is probably not going to deter me from buying gen 1 one anyway, but I'll definitely try to hold out till the "right one comes along", so to speak ![Tongue](https://5series.net/forums/images/smilies/imported/tongue.gif)
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eh? aren't most programs on a computer that we choose to run 'user' apps? so, I couldn't listen to internet radio while I write an email out on the road? And personally I hate Safari in comparison to Firefox. if it is a hybrid computer, why not use Snow Leopard instead of a glorified iphone OS. besides which, as you have said, the ipad ISN'T doing what the hardware may well be capable of... as I noted..
interesting that I can choose from over 250,000 books on a kindle from here in Australia.... mind you, how many hours can you sit and read from an LCD screen like the ipad anyway..... which again raises the question of its purpose????
I do ask myself what flash content is important to me, because my own business web site contains it (no it is not porn) and it does not contain advertising. Someone more learned than I will no doubt be able to answer this, but isn't youtube a streamed video? access that most people take for granted on a 'computer'?? No deal breaker on an iphone, but a bit odd on 'computer'..
No flash, from Apples own presentation
![](https://cdn.mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/no-flash-big.jpg)
This product is merely a fashionable method for driving further business to the app store. If it was meant to be a computer, it would have computer like features. Instead it has iphone (and is just a bigger screen to take advantage of all those apps)written all over it without the ability to make calls (unless you wish to buy the accessories and do VOIP).
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interesting that I can choose from over 250,000 books on a kindle from here in Australia.... mind you, how many hours can you sit and read from an LCD screen like the ipad anyway..... which again raises the question of its purpose????
I do ask myself what flash content is important to me, because my own business web site contains it (no it is not porn) and it does not contain advertising. Someone more learned than I will no doubt be able to answer this, but isn't youtube a streamed video? access that most people take for granted on a 'computer'?? No deal breaker on an iphone, but a bit odd on 'computer'..
No flash, from Apples own presentation
![](https://cdn.mashable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/no-flash-big.jpg)
This product is merely a fashionable method for driving further business to the app store. If it was meant to be a computer, it would have computer like features. Instead it has iphone (and is just a bigger screen to take advantage of all those apps)written all over it without the ability to make calls (unless you wish to buy the accessories and do VOIP).
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Cheers
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And this is just one issue that cane come up, that comes to my mind. Full blow OSes need big storage, the iPad is not ready to go with a 256 GB SSD or it is ready but it would cost triple the base model. Then you need all the necessary external ports to take advantage of the OS, ports that take a lot of space, and thus further push the price up. Then you need extra cooling, which is not something to dismiss so easily.... problems can go on and on... PLUS integrating OS X with touch into such a portable and buttonless device may cost more in R&D, cost that again pushes the price up.
Looks to me to be a slick mix of my iPod Touch and my Kindle. I'll pass. The Kindle connects free to any 3G network while Apple wants me to sign up with AT&T for $30/month to download. Unless the iBooks are priced that much cheaper than Amazon, not worth the added expense. Maybe a future iteration with more true computer functionality will get me over the top but for now it's just a slcik gadget that I don't really need.
My personal reaction to the tablet: I will certainly wait for the summer iPhone (4th gen) and wait and see that new features it provides. If i jump in on the new iPhone i will for sure wait for the 2nd gen tablet with improved features. Havign said taht there is no doubt in my mind that Apple has again established a cornerstone in the mobile devices market. It only needs some time to grow and evolve, just like the first gen iPhone. Now the iPhone is truly a phenomenon, something that nobody was able to say 3 years ago.
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Sorry man but from the pics that Kindle is junk compared to the iPad. The clunky apparent feel of those buttons and that B&W screen from 30 years ago is something i would say 'PASS with laurels' in favor of the iPad which is only a few bucks more expensive.
My personal reaction to the tablet: I will certainly wait for the summer iPhone (4th gen) and wait and see that new features it provides. If i jump in on the new iPhone i will for sure wait for the 2nd gen tablet with improved features. Havign said taht there is no doubt in my mind that Apple has again established a cornerstone in the mobile devices market. It only needs some time to grow and evolve, just like the first gen iPhone. Now the iPhone is truly a phenomenon, something that nobody was able to say 3 years ago.
My personal reaction to the tablet: I will certainly wait for the summer iPhone (4th gen) and wait and see that new features it provides. If i jump in on the new iPhone i will for sure wait for the 2nd gen tablet with improved features. Havign said taht there is no doubt in my mind that Apple has again established a cornerstone in the mobile devices market. It only needs some time to grow and evolve, just like the first gen iPhone. Now the iPhone is truly a phenomenon, something that nobody was able to say 3 years ago.
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I can't wait to see how AT&T's "fastest" 3G network holds up once millions of people start taking advantage of the unlimited data package for $30 a month.
Because of their history with the iPhone on its network - I won't hold my breath.
Because of their history with the iPhone on its network - I won't hold my breath.
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Imagine if there were a torrent app for iphone and/or ipad. Considering that it's a device that will play video, that would definitely kill the 3G network stone dead.
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There are already torrent apps for the iPhone. These apps should in principle work on the iPad. They require a jailbroken iPhone, but if you're into torrents you're probably running a jailbroken iPhone already...
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I imagine the vast majority of phones probably aren't hacked so it's probably not that big a problem now. I guess Apple (perhaps with pressure from AT&T) don't allow an official torrent app. Can you buy video episodes via iphone-itunes? like you can with itunes on a computer? That would also drain the network.
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I imagine the vast majority of phones probably aren't hacked so it's probably not that big a problem now. I guess Apple (perhaps with pressure from AT&T) don't allow an official torrent app. Can you buy video episodes via iphone-itunes? like you can with itunes on a computer? That would also drain the network.