wickster

Jesus Ric, talk about miss quoting someone, if you had included the whole QUOTE, I went on to say get four tyres....
And for the record, I did run my golf with winter tyres on the front only on my golf, never, not once did I have any trouble with snow tyres on the front only on that car, but lets not forget where talking about a front wheel drive car here, not rear wheel drive, and I can also understand why you would be fined (with good reason ) for mixing tyres, but rearwheel drive put on four tyres.

Matt01

Just to chime in on the winter tyre debate, I'm in the same situation, lease car, no option to fit winter tyres. Like the whole snow chain idea... Should be much cheaper... Although must remember to make this mistake... My link (not sure on what the policy of posting links is, if it not allowed. Sorry, but there are some stupid people in the world!!!!

Theo

I got my 5er winter tires myself when it was still a leasecar, why wouldn't that be an option?

Saw that pic all over the net. In all seriousness: what if the 1 driver just drove there from higher up in the mountains? I.e. was going downhill most of the time, in that case it can be very helpful to have the chains on the front wheels, even with a RWD. So perhaps not so stupid after all...

rsyed

What has leasing the car got to do with buying or not buying winter tires?

It is like saying - if i lease the car, why should i pay for fuel, or heck insurance?

Leasing the car means you are financing the car in a different way. You still pay for tear and wear; and considering the weather in europe, part of the tear and wear are the winter tires one have to buy.

Theo

They probably refer to a company lease car, very common here. It essentially leads to people not caring for their car very much since the boss pays it anyways and the lease company will take it back after the lease expires.

jay77

Lol, that's my weekends out then Well I will have to take turns with the wife as she likes driving our e60 as much as me lol




Hmm I think you can keep them on and drive up to about 40mph, but I know when it snowed and the traction was really bad people didnt go above 20 -30mph even on dual carriage ways so maybe you could use them till the roads are better to drive on

have a look at this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ku9L785XvnQ







Ouch!

jmemahoney

That's probably a bit unfair! In the UK it is common for companies to provide leased company cars. The lease includes all maintanance costs including brakes, windscreen wipers, tyres etc. In this case, I think the point is that if you go and spend >£1,000 on new alloys/tyres you are essentially subsidising the lease company as there will be less wear on the summer tyres.

IMHO, UK motoring organisations need to start lobbying both government (to legislate) and fleet/lease/insurance companies (to educate).

Sorry, I'm new to forums so go gently! I responded to the wrong quote - meant "What has leasing the car got to do with buying or not buying winter tires?
It is like saying - if i lease the car, why should i pay for fuel, or heck insurance?
Leasing the car means you are financing the car in a different way. You still pay for tear and wear; and considering the weather in europe, part of the tear and wear are the winter tires one have to buy. "

rsyed

i don't see it like this: is a child seat included in the lease payments? why should you subsidize the lease companies buy not wearing out the leather by using the child seat? I assume the child seat is part of the law.

Bottom line; how much do the winter wheels cost? let us say 1500 pounds. you use them for 3 years and when you return your car, you can sell the wheels for say 750 pounds - this amounts to 750 pounds of total cost. Add 91 pounds from interest you could have gotten on the 1500 if it was sitting on your bank accoutn for 3 years - so a totla 840 pounds over 3 years, amouting to 280 pounds a year. This is an amount I am willing to pay for safety in winter. In fact, how much is your deductable from your insurance if something were to happen iwnter?

wickster

+1

jmemahoney

Not sure I understand the comparison with the child seat. However, you are preaching to the converted about winter tyres - I have them and would get them even if I still had a lease car.

Your numbers look attractive but probably not realistic. Most company car users drive over 20,000 miles a year and will get though about 4 sets of tyres over a 3 year lease. If 5/12 of this is on winter tyres (Nov to March), you will be paying just under half of this. Plus winter tyres should be replaced at 4mm. At nearly £200 a tyre it soon adds up. I'd also be suprised if you managed to retain 50% of the wheel value after 3 years...Bear in mind that you/your company have already paid for the tyres and you are actually paying twice. The lease companies need to wake up or one of them should break with the pack...