Lap Times: F10 Vs. E60
08-03-2010, 08:56 AM
#71
Senior Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cairo, Egypt
Posts: 347
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: 523iA, 2006, Silver Grey, Black Leatherette Interior, Fine-Wood Trim Poplar Grain Brown High-Gloss, 6 Speed Automatic Transmission with Steptronic, Automatic Air Conditioning with Extended Content, Interior and Exterior Mirrors with Automatic Anti-Dazzle Function (Incl. Folding Function for Exterior Mirror), Electric Front Seats with Memory for Driver, Multi-Function Steering Wheel with Cruise Control, Adjustable Steering Column, BMW Radio with 8 Speakers and CD Drive, Park Distance Control, Universal Bluetooth Cell Phone, Electric Rear Sunblind
I am just writing this last post to avoid misleading the forum members with your wrong information.
You would need to recheck your data first. This is rather tiring
your basis of the cars whether manual or automatic appears off. Please provide all acceleration and elasticity of all cars compared.
eg it's a manual 535i http://www.fastestlaps.com/carBMW_535i_F10.html
Both cars in Sport Auto were automatic as it is clearly written in the tests of Sport Auto. I obtained the acceleration data from Sport Auto site not from fastest laps site. You can find them in post #48.
Fastestlaps.com says the F10 535i is faster than the E60 535d.
So basically it is a further proof of my point that a slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) that is able to achieve the same lap time as a faster accelerating car (the F10 535i) while both are equipped with the same suspension packages and gearboxes means that the slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) is better handling in corners than the faster accelerating car (F10 535i).
Thanks for bringing up the comparison as it helps to further prove my statement
.
These are two different E60 530i you are comparing. The fast one was built in 2007-2009 with 272 hp 320 Nm N53B30 engine and the slow one was built in 2005-2007 with 258 300Nm N52B30 engine.
See how weak your technical knowledge is
?
Please do not mislead the forum members with your subjective comparisons.
Instead, use objective comparisons, like mine
.
You would need to recheck your data first. This is rather tiring
your basis of the cars whether manual or automatic appears off. Please provide all acceleration and elasticity of all cars compared.eg it's a manual 535i http://www.fastestlaps.com/carBMW_535i_F10.html
For the Hockenheim cars you compared, Fastestlaps summary - F10 is a better performer http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso..._E60_535D.html
So basically it is a further proof of my point that a slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) that is able to achieve the same lap time as a faster accelerating car (the F10 535i) while both are equipped with the same suspension packages and gearboxes means that the slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) is better handling in corners than the faster accelerating car (F10 535i).
Thanks for bringing up the comparison as it helps to further prove my statement
.For the Autozeitung cars, F10 is better than one and worse than the other
F10 better http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso..._BMW_530i.html
F10 worse http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...530i_2007.html
F10 better http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso..._BMW_530i.html
F10 worse http://www.fastestlaps.com/compariso...530i_2007.html
See how weak your technical knowledge is
?Please do not mislead the forum members with your subjective comparisons.
Instead, use objective comparisons, like mine
.
08-03-2010, 04:17 PM
#72
Members
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: singapore
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Fastestlaps.com says the F10 535i is faster than the E60 535d. Yes. faster overall
So basically it is a further proof of my point that a slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) that is able to achieve the same lap time as a faster accelerating car (the F10 535i) while both are equipped with the same suspension packages and gearboxes means that the slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) is better handling in corners than the faster accelerating car (F10 535i). Assumption that the 535D is slower accelerating for the test, which acceleration and elasticity. I've requested for all data and only data for 1 track is provided.
Thanks for bringing up the comparison as it helps to further prove my statement.
These are two different E60 530i you are comparing. The fast one was built in 2007-2009 with 272 hp 320 Nm N53B30 engine and the slow one was built in 2005-2007 with 258 300Nm N52B30 engine.
See how weak your technical knowledge is? Yes but is either 530i faster on the straight than the F10? Data requested but not provided. From the links provided, the 530i have different acceleration speeds.
Please do not mislead the forum members with your subjective comparisons.
Instead, use objective comparisons, like mine. Try harder
So basically it is a further proof of my point that a slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) that is able to achieve the same lap time as a faster accelerating car (the F10 535i) while both are equipped with the same suspension packages and gearboxes means that the slower accelerating car (the E60 535d) is better handling in corners than the faster accelerating car (F10 535i). Assumption that the 535D is slower accelerating for the test, which acceleration and elasticity. I've requested for all data and only data for 1 track is provided.
Thanks for bringing up the comparison as it helps to further prove my statement
.These are two different E60 530i you are comparing. The fast one was built in 2007-2009 with 272 hp 320 Nm N53B30 engine and the slow one was built in 2005-2007 with 258 300Nm N52B30 engine.
See how weak your technical knowledge is
? Yes but is either 530i faster on the straight than the F10? Data requested but not provided. From the links provided, the 530i have different acceleration speeds.Please do not mislead the forum members with your subjective comparisons.
Instead, use objective comparisons, like mine
. Try harder
08-21-2010, 07:23 AM
#73
Members
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: singapore
Posts: 149
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Here for the objective Shebs, fresh from the press
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/08/21/bm...t-nurburgring/
Quote "One of them, clearly, the driver behind the wheel, his experience with the car and the track. Second, the preparation of the car for the race track, including the extremely important tires they run on."
http://www.bmwblog.com/2010/08/21/bm...t-nurburgring/
Quote "One of them, clearly, the driver behind the wheel, his experience with the car and the track. Second, the preparation of the car for the race track, including the extremely important tires they run on."
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post