F11 For USA?
02-02-2010, 07:06 PM
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I would recommend the E-class Estate... 
Surprise, surprise... I'm very satisfied with the car, even though I've had two E61 in a row I'm not regretting leaving BMW for a while now. From what I've read the E-class wagon will come to the US as E350 4matic, with the direct injected 292hp engine this summer.
Surprise, surprise... I'm very satisfied with the car, even though I've had two E61 in a row I'm not regretting leaving BMW for a while now. From what I've read the E-class wagon will come to the US as E350 4matic, with the direct injected 292hp engine this summer.How does their computer control system fare vs. the iDrive?
Does the tailgate window pull up like the E61?
Any hybrid-version on the radar??
02-03-2010, 02:18 AM
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There is a E400 Hybrid in the pipe "...in a couple of years from now" don't know if it's going to ba available as a wagon. It's the E350 CGI engine with a 20kW electric engine, same drive train as the S400 Hybrid. The COMMAND is light years better than the iDrive I was used to in the E61. Linguatronic (voice recognition) is working flawlessly and is actually useful. Navigation is better, only thing I liked better in the E61 was the phone book. And the tailgate window does not pull up like the E61, which I miss. The auto tailgate is better, you can maneuver it as a regular tailgate when you hold the handle pressed.
02-03-2010, 11:04 AM
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My Ride: 2007 530xiT, 1964 MBZ 220SEb Coupe, 1986 MBZ 300E and a 1997 Jeep Cherokee as my cottage car.
Previous rides started with a 1947 Studebaker Commander convertible and included numerous Fords, VWs, MBZs, Saabs and, for added measure, a '61 Buick Special Wagon and Pontiac GTO.
There is a E400 Hybrid in the pipe "...in a couple of years from now" don't know if it's going to ba available as a wagon. It's the E350 CGI engine with a 20kW electric engine, same drive train as the S400 Hybrid. The COMMAND is light years better than the iDrive I was used to in the E61. Linguatronic (voice recognition) is working flawlessly and is actually useful. Navigation is better, only thing I liked better in the E61 was the phone book. And the tailgate window does not pull up like the E61, which I miss. The auto tailgate is better, you can maneuver it as a regular tailgate when you hold the handle pressed.
Can the European E-Class be fitted with a tow bar? Here in the US, fitting one seems to be an impossibility with the service manager at our local MB dealer telling me that the installation of a trailer hitch on any of their new vehicles other than the ML, GLK and their new smaller truck/SUV would negate the vehicle's warranty. Additionally, unlike the E61, there appear to be no after-market units available for any recent MB wagons.
As an aside, our '86 300E and M61 both do an excellent job towing small trailers.
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02-03-2010, 12:40 PM
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If BMW offered 528iT and 535iT, the wagons would have sold better, but probably not a lot better.
U.S. buyers just do not like wagons in general.
U.S. buyers just do not like wagons in general.
02-03-2010, 04:12 PM
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02-05-2010, 01:37 PM
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I'm willing to be his order gets canceled....
As has been stated, the factory closed Dec 24th then reopened about 2 weeks later and started retooling for the F10.
I'm betting that the dealer found one that was similar to what the buyer wanted that was already build and waiting in holding, with how slow they have been selling it would not shock me if this was the case
As has been stated, the factory closed Dec 24th then reopened about 2 weeks later and started retooling for the F10.
I'm betting that the dealer found one that was similar to what the buyer wanted that was already build and waiting in holding, with how slow they have been selling it would not shock me if this was the case
Look at the second picture in this thread:
https://5series.net/forums/topic/934...ctures-of-f10/
02-06-2010, 12:38 AM
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Interesting indeed. That sure does look like a 5 Touring in that picture. However, it could also mean that they are only still building cars that had been ordered prior to a certain date; ie you could not walk into a dealership and order a new 2010 today.
Its tough to say what the truth is. All I can say is that if you went into Pentagon Car sales in Germany (selling US Spec cars to US military) and asked to order a 2010 5 Touring, they would tell you it was not possible. Google "BMW Military Care Sales Germany" and you will see that there is not a 5 Touring anywhere. There is only one; and it is sold. Its sitting behind the dealership in Kaiserslautern. It is beautiful. I saw it. I am jealous of the SOB who bought it and am kicking myself for not getting in the game sooner.
Thanks for nothing BWM. I hope you choke on the GT!
Its tough to say what the truth is. All I can say is that if you went into Pentagon Car sales in Germany (selling US Spec cars to US military) and asked to order a 2010 5 Touring, they would tell you it was not possible. Google "BMW Military Care Sales Germany" and you will see that there is not a 5 Touring anywhere. There is only one; and it is sold. Its sitting behind the dealership in Kaiserslautern. It is beautiful. I saw it. I am jealous of the SOB who bought it and am kicking myself for not getting in the game sooner.
Thanks for nothing BWM. I hope you choke on the GT!
02-08-2010, 04:48 AM
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My Ride: F11 520d Touring Imperial Blue, sports automatic, VDC, black leather sports seats, M Sport steering wheel, HiFi Professional, 18" 328 wheels, Xenon, PCD, electrical tow hitch etc...
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Interesting indeed. That sure does look like a 5 Touring in that picture. However, it could also mean that they are only still building cars that had been ordered prior to a certain date; ie you could not walk into a dealership and order a new 2010 today.
Its tough to say what the truth is. All I can say is that if you went into Pentagon Car sales in Germany (selling US Spec cars to US military) and asked to order a 2010 5 Touring, they would tell you it was not possible. Google "BMW Military Care Sales Germany" and you will see that there is not a 5 Touring anywhere. There is only one; and it is sold. Its sitting behind the dealership in Kaiserslautern. It is beautiful. I saw it. I am jealous of the SOB who bought it and am kicking myself for not getting in the game sooner.
Thanks for nothing BWM. I hope you choke on the GT!
Its tough to say what the truth is. All I can say is that if you went into Pentagon Car sales in Germany (selling US Spec cars to US military) and asked to order a 2010 5 Touring, they would tell you it was not possible. Google "BMW Military Care Sales Germany" and you will see that there is not a 5 Touring anywhere. There is only one; and it is sold. Its sitting behind the dealership in Kaiserslautern. It is beautiful. I saw it. I am jealous of the SOB who bought it and am kicking myself for not getting in the game sooner.
Thanks for nothing BWM. I hope you choke on the GT!
Well I changed my mind and I am now waiting to be able to order a 525dT F11!
02-13-2010, 03:05 PM
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My Ride: 2011 F10 535i, Graphite on Oyster, ///Msport, Executive Package, XDrive
The SM at the local dealership told me today that E61 production was extended to April 2010. Original cut off was to be Dec 24, 2009 but AG decided to extend production to fill in some of the gap between the end of the E61 and the introduction of the F11.
He also confirmed no F11 for NA and potentially no F31 (next generation 3 series touring).
I guess we willbe lining up for the 3 and 5 series GT if BMW NA has its way.
He also confirmed no F11 for NA and potentially no F31 (next generation 3 series touring).
I guess we willbe lining up for the 3 and 5 series GT if BMW NA has its way.