Petes550i

Thank you.


You know, to be honest, I am a fan of the car, not of the brand. Evidence: In the last 15 years, I've owned BMW, Mercedes, Lexus, Infiniti, Acura, Porsche, and Cadillac. Life is too damn short to mull over stuff you have no control over. Like I said before, if you don't like what you see (even after test-driving it), shop somewhere else. Be happy. BMW isn't going to fall on its hands and knees and beg you to come back. Vote with your wallet.

Petes550i

...yeah, I know, to guys like you, it's your "lover." ....but hey, whatever turns you on.

Seriously, what "qualifications" are needed to be a 5 series enthusiast? Is there a test or a form to fill out?......pleeze!

At the end of the day, no matter how much you want to deny it, it is really just a car...even a frickin Ferrari.

That being said, if cars to me were just transportation, I'd be driving around in a beat-up 20 year-old Honda. Like I mentioned before, I've owned 7 different brands in the last 15 years. I love to enjoy what different makes have to offer. This isn't a frickin marriage.

Gene

definitely not a marriage, but still an investment, as we all want to feel like we are spending our money on the best product out there...

no, my e60 is not my lover, but I take pride in driving and owning....and like anything else I decide to spend my hard earned money on, I'm going to develop some sort feeling of attachment to it.

A 5 series enthusiast IMO, is willing to take the good with the bad, and still stay loyal to the model line. Also is willing to discuss a model's shortcoming along with innovations/progression, and yes, every model has it's short comings....but what I have always enjoyed on this particular forum of 5 series and BMW enthusiasts is the ability to have discussions without worrying about getting into an all out argument. My how times have changed, and I've only been here 2+ years.....

At what point does posting the same thing over and over again get old....I'm seriously exhausted reading all the same posts and members saying the same thing...

too heavy, disconnected, poor performance, ugly pig nose, etc....

classic design, more luxurious, softer ride, better quality of parts, electronic/techno forefront, etc...

it's great that some feel so strongly about their purchase that they have to defend it daily and often, yet sad at the same time that it needs to be defended...

like I posted somewhere else "same shit different thread"

*unsubscribed and ignored....

Petes550i

I feel for you Gene, but let's be real, what do you expect in a public forum....people joining hands and singing Kumbaya?

At least this is nothing compared to all the shit that goes on on your typical pro sports forum.

Bimmer32

Petes550i is no fanboy or loyalist; he has no clear knowledge of why he owned 6 BMW in the last 11 years despite "life is short." I guess it's too short to figure out anything.

Petes550i, life's too short to try to defend your F10 purchase. But since you do not respect what I do in my leisure time and your rhetorics have been negative at best, here's a pyschoanalysis for you:

You are not happy with your purchase? Why are you overly defensive about your purchase of the F10? Naturally, if you are really satisfy about your F10 purchase, who cares what others think or say . . . unless life is too short for you, you paid a premium on the damn car, and now you are doubting your purchase because people like me took time to entertain and deconstruct your impulse purchase. Hence, you must defend your purchase; otherwise, people might think you're a typical guy with lots of money (or not), no brains and buys cars to show off.

Since you've given me advice about what I should do with my time, here's one for you. Don't waste your time here unless you're doubting your F10 purchase. We're just a bunch of numb nuts just dicking around to see who is "REALLY" enjoying their F10. I see you're not one of them; hence, the need to defend in such a manner you have.

bm323

Read your own question, make it a few times, it in no way sheds light as regards what you claim to find "performance based on technology vs. physics". It only shows your clear prejudice and defective logic. Btw I have not voted cos your question and analysis is flawed..

Petes550i

Oh boy, the "Gestapo" has finally come out of the closet!

Mr. Freud, I never directed anything personal against you. (What in the above posts mentions that?) But if you want to bust my balls because I've defended my F10, then let's take this outside this forum. No need to clog up the threads with more personal attacks, unless you want to be perceived as another F10 troll.

PM me and let's talk.

TEAM M

I Like the F10 I sees it everyday it grows on me more and more and the inside is nice the dash feels kinda big though but overall the car feels much bigger when the M version comes out it's gonna make our car look old cause everbody is gonna stare at the new M all the time and end looking at our E60 like some of us look at the E39

TEAM M

+1 I think he scarred....He sounds like a big hatter

Bimmer32

You have to make some deductive reasonings; there's more logic than meets the eye. I'm not asking the public. I'm asking an audience that knows a 5 series (BMW) has been marketed as the "ultimate driving machine" and is a "sports" sedan. Some, if not most, own these cars in version models and releases. People here know that "sport" for BMW is not just a catch word. Additionally, people who track and race know that less weight/size, often times, yield better performance and handling given the same technology. A lay man's research can tell you that as well. So why are people overwhelmingly against increase weight/size if technology can offset it, or can it for a reasonable price increase? Or do they simple don't what a 5 series to grow any bigger or get heavy? What is their underlying thought when I asked question 1? If one was not thinking of "performance" then one would choose the other answers.

The 3 questions presume that the audience thinks of the 5 series (right or wrong) as the "ultimate driving machine" and a sports sedan. It seeks a majority thought toward a 5 series and not intended to say that the latest 5 series (F10) is not in line with the majority. Think about, if the F10 can performance as well or significantly better than its predecessor, and still give them the "connection to the road" as previous models, then it's a winner for those that have the "performance and handling" mindset for the 5 series, and they are the majority as the votes show.