Why do so many people hate the M5?
08-01-2007, 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='453649' date='Jul 31 2007, 11:48 AM
The M5 is too heavy (+150 kg than a 545i) and the V10 have the same torque of the 550i .
On track you can feel the major weight just entered in the pit lane .
545i/550i has a better mileage, the same torque, cheaper service costs .
But, most of all, 545i/550i has the max torque at 3500 rpm, the emmy at about 5500-6000 : to drive decently the M5 you have always to reach 6-7k rpm . And on the road it isn't possible .
And a modded 545i/550i (400 HP on 1600 Kg), imho, is better than an M5 .
The only thing from M5 I envy ?
The 7 gears: I would like to have another gear after the 6th
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On track you can feel the major weight just entered in the pit lane .
545i/550i has a better mileage, the same torque, cheaper service costs .
But, most of all, 545i/550i has the max torque at 3500 rpm, the emmy at about 5500-6000 : to drive decently the M5 you have always to reach 6-7k rpm . And on the road it isn't possible .
And a modded 545i/550i (400 HP on 1600 Kg), imho, is better than an M5 .
The only thing from M5 I envy ?
The 7 gears: I would like to have another gear after the 6th
.You really think your 545 is "better" than an M5? 150kg heavier than the 545? Well I wonder why, maybe because it has 510hp and your car has what, 300 something? Wake up and give respect to a car greater than yours.
I think deep down inside you wish you had a m5 which is why you wasted your money and put M5 parts into your car.
08-01-2007, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by xexyus' post='453980' date='Aug 1 2007, 06:00 PM
You really think your 545 is "better" than an M5? 150kg heavier than the 545? Well I wonder why, maybe because it has 510hp and your car has what, 300 something? Wake up and give respect to a car greater than yours.
The point is : 400 HP on 1600 Kg or 500 HP on 1750 kg ?
I prefer 400 HP on 1600 kg .
You have the little 6 cilinders and you cannot understand ...
Anyway, from 6 to 8 cilinders there is a big difference . From 8 to 10 NO . Most of all when the torque is the same .
The displacement is similar too .
I think deep down inside you wish you had a m5 which is why you wasted your money and put M5 parts into your car.
Do you know what car I would like to have ?
A 545i brought @5.2cc by Hamann or 5.4 from Racing Dynamics, not the useless M5 .
Or the Alpina B5 (my engine supercharged) . I didn't know it existed
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08-01-2007, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by xexyus' post='453980' date='Aug 1 2007, 06:00 PM
300 something
400 in Autumn, pls . On 1600 kg . I am so sure to reach 400 HP (from 333, not 300 something) wall that I will dyno and post the diagram .
Coming back on M5, all cars beat it : CLS55!!, CLS63, Alpina B5, etc.
A good hypothetical M5 should be V8, 8000 rpm, 480 HP, 1600 Kg .
08-01-2007, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='454130' date='Aug 1 2007, 05:01 PM
400 in Autumn, pls . On 1600 kg . I am so sure to reach 400 HP (from 333, not 300 something) wall that I will dyno and post the diagram .
Coming back on M5, all cars beat it : CLS55!!, CLS63, Alpina B5, etc.
A good hypothetical M5 should be V8, 8000 rpm, 480 HP, 1600 Kg .
Coming back on M5, all cars beat it : CLS55!!, CLS63, Alpina B5, etc.
A good hypothetical M5 should be V8, 8000 rpm, 480 HP, 1600 Kg .
your 545 does not have 400hp and if you did put that kinda of money to mod it then look at the gains you will get in the M5. I dont understand your hatred towards the M5, did some M5 owner make fun of you or something? I mean seriously, come on.
And you have 325 horsepower not 333. M5 has 510. Relax with the hatred and save your money, one day you too can say you have a real m5 without adding those M5 front brakes and Mtech kit
08-02-2007, 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by xexyus' post='454161' date='Aug 2 2007, 12:06 AM
your 545 does not have 400hp and if you did put that kinda of money to mod it then look at the gains you will get in the M5. I dont understand your hatred towards the M5, did some M5 owner make fun of you or something? I mean seriously, come on.
And you have 325 horsepower not 333. M5 has 510. Relax with the hatred and save your money, one day you too can say you have a real m5 without adding those M5 front brakes and Mtech kit
And you have 325 horsepower not 333. M5 has 510. Relax with the hatred and save your money, one day you too can say you have a real m5 without adding those M5 front brakes and Mtech kit
1. 333, not 325 . In Europe we have faster cars than in US
2. you can be sure about my 400 HP after vacation : with the only exhaust and map, I have already improved my 0-100 of about 0.3s . With headers and catalysts, RD declares +25 HP . Thus they will be 400 .
Money spent ? Less than you imagine .
3. If I wanted the M5, I could take it for only +10k .. At the start of 2005 there was the test drive M5 at the dealer . And they sold it after a month . I'm happy to haven't choosen the M5 .
4. M5 brakes are shit, compared to Brembos . But, thought weak, they have the advantage that you find pads in every dealer in the world (they are the same pads of 535d)
5. I'm sorry you can't understand : on the road, the M5 isn't faster than a 545i/550i .
08-03-2007, 02:28 AM
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serious haterd here for no reason im trying to figure out somthing europe has more powerful Ok mate i come from a tuning background ish over here and that stament really does not ring true. far far from it.
"2. you can be sure about my 400 HP after vacation : with the only exhaust and map, I have already improved my 0-100 of about 0.3s . With headers and catalysts, RD declares +25 HP . Thus they will be 400 .
Money spent ? Less than you imagine ."
Your saying then that with just breathing mods and a remap !!!! your going to gain with your words a Massive 67HP!!!!!!
My word man come back to the really world. the most you will get for everything in peak power is a 25 - 30 these are not mircle cars mate. You will increase yoru tourqe curve by a massive amount and mid range but peak not without allot of work mate sorry 400 is well out of reach for your mods
"2. you can be sure about my 400 HP after vacation : with the only exhaust and map, I have already improved my 0-100 of about 0.3s . With headers and catalysts, RD declares +25 HP . Thus they will be 400 .
Money spent ? Less than you imagine ."
Your saying then that with just breathing mods and a remap !!!! your going to gain with your words a Massive 67HP!!!!!!
My word man come back to the really world. the most you will get for everything in peak power is a 25 - 30 these are not mircle cars mate. You will increase yoru tourqe curve by a massive amount and mid range but peak not without allot of work mate sorry 400 is well out of reach for your mods
08-03-2007, 02:53 AM
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Originally Posted by The Parrot' post='454816' date='Aug 3 2007, 06:28 AM
serious haterd here for no reason im trying to figure out somthing europe has more powerful Ok mate i come from a tuning background ish over here and that stament really does not ring true. far far from it.
"2. you can be sure about my 400 HP after vacation : with the only exhaust and map, I have already improved my 0-100 of about 0.3s . With headers and catalysts, RD declares +25 HP . Thus they will be 400 .
Money spent ? Less than you imagine ."
Your saying then that with just breathing mods and a remap !!!! your going to gain with your words a Massive 67HP!!!!!!
My word man come back to the really world. the most you will get for everything in peak power is a 25 - 30 these are not mircle cars mate. You will increase yoru tourqe curve by a massive amount and mid range but peak not without allot of work mate sorry 400 is well out of reach for your mods
"2. you can be sure about my 400 HP after vacation : with the only exhaust and map, I have already improved my 0-100 of about 0.3s . With headers and catalysts, RD declares +25 HP . Thus they will be 400 .
Money spent ? Less than you imagine ."
Your saying then that with just breathing mods and a remap !!!! your going to gain with your words a Massive 67HP!!!!!!
My word man come back to the really world. the most you will get for everything in peak power is a 25 - 30 these are not mircle cars mate. You will increase yoru tourqe curve by a massive amount and mid range but peak not without allot of work mate sorry 400 is well out of reach for your mods
I just said to myself, "whatever he just turned 21yrs old". But then again I know people on this forum UNDER 20yrs old and their laughing at this kid without having to respond to his stupid comments. Just another bad seed on this forum fueled by hatred.
08-03-2007, 03:32 AM
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Originally Posted by The Parrot' post='454816' date='Aug 3 2007, 12:28 PM
serious haterd here for no reason im trying to figure out somthing europe has more powerful Ok mate i come from a tuning background ish over here and that stament really does not ring true. far far from it.
"2. you can be sure about my 400 HP after vacation : with the only exhaust and map, I have already improved my 0-100 of about 0.3s . With headers and catalysts, RD declares +25 HP . Thus they will be 400 .
Money spent ? Less than you imagine ."
"2. you can be sure about my 400 HP after vacation : with the only exhaust and map, I have already improved my 0-100 of about 0.3s . With headers and catalysts, RD declares +25 HP . Thus they will be 400 .
Money spent ? Less than you imagine ."
And it is the case of 545i : 325 HP in US, 333 in EU .
Your saying then that with just breathing mods and a remap !!!! your going to gain with your words a Massive 67HP!!!!!!
My word man come back to the really world. the most you will get for everything in peak power is a 25 - 30 these are not mircle cars mate. You will increase yoru tourqe curve by a massive amount and mid range but peak not without allot of work mate sorry 400 is well out of reach for your mods
My word man come back to the really world. the most you will get for everything in peak power is a 25 - 30 these are not mircle cars mate. You will increase yoru tourqe curve by a massive amount and mid range but peak not without allot of work mate sorry 400 is well out of reach for your mods
Anyway, my engine doesn't need your approval, to gain HPs .
But I want to be kind and if you still have doubts I can attach clips (0-100 and 100-200 kmh) that show the gained power, to you can download and open them with Quick Time Pro, to verify decimals .
08-03-2007, 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by xexyus' post='454821' date='Aug 3 2007, 12:53 PM
I just said to myself, "whatever he just turned 21yrs old". But then again I know people on this forum UNDER 20yrs old and their laughing at this kid without having to respond to his stupid comments. Just another bad seed on this forum fueled by hatred.
Enjoy your heavy and no torque M5 (that is slower than 550i in the real drive conditions), at 30 MPH : lol, run (at 30 MPH) against a tree .
Everyone knows that the V10 is useless out of the track . No torque, 1800 Kg .
In the meantime, the B5, the CLS63 and S/RS6 Audi go 3 times the ridicolous M5, using less gas .