Singh Tune e60 M5 before and after
11-12-2009 | 08:42 AM
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Wow this is a very interesting thread. I'm now completely baffled on the tuning front 
I think I'm gonna let C be the east coast guinea pig and take it from there 
This may be a stupid question and I know the answer from a product marketing standpoint already. Would it be unreasonable to dyno 2 M5's at RPI (as Eloy seems to have a large enough customer base as he mentioned he dyno'd over 200 M5's). One stock with only the ESS tune. Do the first pull and then have Jags come in and do the tune while the car is on the dyno to keep the conditions the same, then do a second pull. Do the same process with a second M5 with standard bolt-ons (pulley, headers, full exhaust, scoops, air filters,etc.). The results will tell the tale.
Again I realize this gives a definitive answer to who has the better tune and makes the opposing tune much harder to sell. Just wouldn't mind seeing them go head to head in an unbiased test to determine whose claims are the real deal.
I think I'm gonna let C be the east coast guinea pig and take it from there This may be a stupid question and I know the answer from a product marketing standpoint already. Would it be unreasonable to dyno 2 M5's at RPI (as Eloy seems to have a large enough customer base as he mentioned he dyno'd over 200 M5's). One stock with only the ESS tune. Do the first pull and then have Jags come in and do the tune while the car is on the dyno to keep the conditions the same, then do a second pull. Do the same process with a second M5 with standard bolt-ons (pulley, headers, full exhaust, scoops, air filters,etc.). The results will tell the tale.
Again I realize this gives a definitive answer to who has the better tune and makes the opposing tune much harder to sell. Just wouldn't mind seeing them go head to head in an unbiased test to determine whose claims are the real deal.
Its nice to get insight from different tuners so it would be awesome to have a dyno day with the Singh guys.
Rich, no, Im not gonna truck the dyno over on Sat. lol. Besides, people never like what they see from our dyno. Toms car would have dynoed more for sure elsewhere cause you guys saw me run it 5 times straight.
11-12-2009 | 08:51 AM
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Originally Posted by RPIpower' post='1052644' date='Nov 11 2009, 03:43 PM
Not bashing a product man. I have recommended the Singh tune to a LOT of MB guys after I dynoed your car. It is what it is though. Im just trying to keep things in perspective because there will be a lot of people that buy and spend a lot of money based on claims that are made. We know that the guys at Eurorev have no intentions or misleading anyone as we do lots of business with little Vinny. The questions raised are things people will ask. Like I said, Ive been skeptical with even the tuners that do things with us. Im just one to want to see things for myself. With the dynos done at separate times and different conditions + correction factors, it just made me want to see it myself more.
On another note. I want to make a public appology. I am in no way trying to bash anyone. In the past 2 years, I have seen new companies come out with tunes and claim these astronomical gains (20+) with a tune and I saw so many good customers spend thousands of dollars on them only to be really dissappointed. We tried the tune that everyone was rantin about on the m5board. The thread went on for pages. Once it was tested, the thread died and the company went away. Rab tried the tune from England. Shipped his ecu all the way there and sent back, only to lose power. So, Tom, John and who ever else, I appologize for coming out like that. I hope this wont stop me from getting some of the steaks?
On another note. I want to make a public appology. I am in no way trying to bash anyone. In the past 2 years, I have seen new companies come out with tunes and claim these astronomical gains (20+) with a tune and I saw so many good customers spend thousands of dollars on them only to be really dissappointed. We tried the tune that everyone was rantin about on the m5board. The thread went on for pages. Once it was tested, the thread died and the company went away. Rab tried the tune from England. Shipped his ecu all the way there and sent back, only to lose power. So, Tom, John and who ever else, I appologize for coming out like that. I hope this wont stop me from getting some of the steaks?
The steaks will always be here for you guys.
11-12-2009 | 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyM5' post='1053186' date='Nov 12 2009, 12:51 PM
The steaks will always be here for you guys.
11-12-2009 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='1053230' date='Nov 12 2009, 11:58 AM
Medium Rare please. Thanks. Who's picking me up at LAX, Virgin America?
11-12-2009 | 11:11 AM
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The 2006 Sepang Bronze M5 is our customer Joe from Las Vegas. He drove it all the way here to get the Singh tune and RPi headers done.
He is not part of any forum I think, but he did read this thread last night.
If anyone was at MFest 3 this year, he was in our booth
He is not part of any forum I think, but he did read this thread last night.
If anyone was at MFest 3 this year, he was in our booth
11-12-2009 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='1053230' date='Nov 12 2009, 10:58 AM
Medium Rare please. Thanks. Who's picking me up at LAX, Virgin America?
11-14-2009 | 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by John@EuroRev' post='1053305' date='Nov 12 2009, 12:11 PM
The 2006 Sepang Bronze M5 is our customer Joe from Las Vegas. He drove it all the way here to get the Singh tune and RPi headers done.
He is not part of any forum I think, but he did read this thread last night.
If anyone was at MFest 3 this year, he was in our booth
He is not part of any forum I think, but he did read this thread last night.
If anyone was at MFest 3 this year, he was in our booth
This 480hp Singh tuned car got humiliated today by the my RPI Stage 2 with ESS tune.... Sepang even started in 2nd gear where I started in 3rd and I still caught him and passed him FYI! My car is putting out 426hp currently on the RPI Dyno meaning if I was to use the same Dyno Singh used to tune this Sepang car I would be probably putting out 500+hp..
I was also told today that Singh has tuned a bone stock E60 M5 and it gained 90hp and it would destroy any M5.. LOL
Video's will be posted later.
Singh if you are out there come to RPI and lets see if your tune can make power on the RPI Stage 2..... I will donate my car to a good cause for your Company!
