Singh Tune e60 M5 before and after
11-11-2009, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by e60hodzic530' post='1052777' date='Nov 11 2009, 06:48 PM
did he PWN u? just curious
We did about 10 - 12 consecutive 3rd gear pulls. P'Tom was ahead by 1.5 car lengths. The m5 did pull closer but we ran out of room. Eventually the m5 would probably take over but that would have yo be a looooong stretch of road. You must remember the m5 is older and outdated compared the panameras, c63s, etc.
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Originally Posted by radzM550i' post='1052811' date='Nov 11 2009, 10:47 PM
Eloy bring your dyno machine this Saturday at Eurorev! 
And the fan.
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We did about 10 - 12 consecutive 3rd gear pulls. P'Tom was ahead by 1.5 car lengths. The m5 did pull closer but we ran out of room. Eventually the m5 would probably take over but that would have yo be a looooong stretch of road. You must remember the m5 is older and outdated compared the panameras, c63s, etc.
shit, i actual work for one day and i missed all of this...lmao
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Wow this is a very interesting thread. I'm now completely baffled on the tuning front I think I'm gonna let C be the east coast guinea pig and take it from there 
This may be a stupid question and I know the answer from a product marketing standpoint already. Would it be unreasonable to dyno 2 M5's at RPI (as Eloy seems to have a large enough customer base as he mentioned he dyno'd over 200 M5's). One stock with only the ESS tune. Do the first pull and then have Jags come in and do the tune while the car is on the dyno to keep the conditions the same, then do a second pull. Do the same process with a second M5 with standard bolt-ons (pulley, headers, full exhaust, scoops, air filters,etc.). The results will tell the tale.
Again I realize this gives a definitive answer to who has the better tune and makes the opposing tune much harder to sell. Just wouldn't mind seeing them go head to head in an unbiased test to determine whose claims are the real deal.
I think I'm gonna let C be the east coast guinea pig and take it from there This may be a stupid question and I know the answer from a product marketing standpoint already. Would it be unreasonable to dyno 2 M5's at RPI (as Eloy seems to have a large enough customer base as he mentioned he dyno'd over 200 M5's). One stock with only the ESS tune. Do the first pull and then have Jags come in and do the tune while the car is on the dyno to keep the conditions the same, then do a second pull. Do the same process with a second M5 with standard bolt-ons (pulley, headers, full exhaust, scoops, air filters,etc.). The results will tell the tale.
Again I realize this gives a definitive answer to who has the better tune and makes the opposing tune much harder to sell. Just wouldn't mind seeing them go head to head in an unbiased test to determine whose claims are the real deal.
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Originally Posted by RPIpower' post='1052644' date='Nov 12 2009, 03:43 AM
Rab tried the tune from England. Shipped his ecu all the way there and sent back, only to lose power.
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Originally Posted by JOHN' post='1052854' date='Nov 11 2009, 08:42 PM
Wow this is a very interesting thread. I'm now completely baffled on the tuning front I think I'm gonna let C be the east coast guinea pig and take it from there
This may be a stupid question and I know the answer from a product marketing standpoint already. Would it be unreasonable to dyno 2 M5's at RPI (as Eloy seems to have a large enough customer base as he mentioned he dyno'd over 200 M5's). One stock with only the ESS tune. Do the first pull and then have Jags come in and do the tune while the car is on the dyno to keep the conditions the same, then do a second pull. Do the same process with a second M5 with standard bolt-ons (pulley, headers, full exhaust, scoops, air filters,etc.). The results will tell the tale.
Again I realize this gives a definitive answer to who has the better tune and makes the opposing tune much harder to sell. Just wouldn't mind seeing them go head to head in an unbiased test to determine whose claims are the real deal.
I think I'm gonna let C be the east coast guinea pig and take it from there This may be a stupid question and I know the answer from a product marketing standpoint already. Would it be unreasonable to dyno 2 M5's at RPI (as Eloy seems to have a large enough customer base as he mentioned he dyno'd over 200 M5's). One stock with only the ESS tune. Do the first pull and then have Jags come in and do the tune while the car is on the dyno to keep the conditions the same, then do a second pull. Do the same process with a second M5 with standard bolt-ons (pulley, headers, full exhaust, scoops, air filters,etc.). The results will tell the tale.
Again I realize this gives a definitive answer to who has the better tune and makes the opposing tune much harder to sell. Just wouldn't mind seeing them go head to head in an unbiased test to determine whose claims are the real deal.
But regarding your idea, I think Eloy already has a good base of dyno info on ESS otherwise he wouldn't have partnered with them. He just needs to do some other M5s with the Singh tune.
11-11-2009, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='1052866' date='Nov 12 2009, 12:03 AM
Hmm...maybe I'm wrong but I don't think Eloy meant that he dynoed 200 different M5s but that he has well over 200 M5 dynos. It doesn't really matter but I just don't think there's even that many M5s in SoCal; or at least that many that are into modding enough to get dynos done.
But regarding your idea, I think Eloy already has a good base of dyno info on ESS otherwise he wouldn't have partnered with them. He just needs to do some other M5s with the Singh tune.
But regarding your idea, I think Eloy already has a good base of dyno info on ESS otherwise he wouldn't have partnered with them. He just needs to do some other M5s with the Singh tune.
No doubt he has the info. The only reason I suggest to do them in sequence was that Eloy would be able to make a fairer comparison based on the conditions being the same(straps, fan, angle, etc.)
11-12-2009, 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by EuroCarFan' post='1052866' date='Nov 11 2009, 09:03 PM
Hmm...maybe I'm wrong but I don't think Eloy meant that he dynoed 200 different M5s but that he has well over 200 M5 dynos. It doesn't really matter but I just don't think there's even that many M5s in SoCal; or at least that many that are into modding enough to get dynos done.
But regarding your idea, I think Eloy already has a good base of dyno info on ESS otherwise he wouldn't have partnered with them. He just needs to do some other M5s with the Singh tune.
But regarding your idea, I think Eloy already has a good base of dyno info on ESS otherwise he wouldn't have partnered with them. He just needs to do some other M5s with the Singh tune.
Any results from the mexico run last sat, DB? RabDog?
11-12-2009, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by MacFly?' post='1052853' date='Nov 11 2009, 11:38 PM
and not to mention he only weights 79lbs!lol