cobradav

We may have to go with European times (if they can begot) versus USA times what with the crippled LC and all.

znod

Nope a deals a deal. I have seen some European times, particularly German, but I know nothing about the mags. One mag's results were, IMO, way too fast for both cars tested. Go to BMW Germany; find the mag tests for both the M5 and M6; and see what you think. Doing these things is a lot easier if you know German--which I don't. Once you get to the tests you can usually figure out what the values given mean. And, you could use a language translator obviously. But, also, the European mags give 0 - 62 and don't give 1/4 results.

Stealthblue

Donv and company,

I believe C & D has some numbers for the M5 in the January 06 issue.

wolverine

Yep, so far here's what's been posted: (I can't verify these numbers).

C&D Feb '06 issue test results 2006 E60 M5:

0-60 4.2
0-100 9.4
0-150 20.7
1/4 mile 12.5 @ 118

I'm eagerly awaiting my subscription issue. Anyone seen the magazine yet?

znod

Hey, thanks, and cool. I'm really looking forward to some articles/reads--and, of course, getting my Red M5.

Here are our quesstimates.

BMW M5 Bimmer32 4.2 11.4 117
BMW M5 cobradav 4.3 12.1 121
Viper SRT-10 R&T 3/05 4.0 8.7 12.1 119.00
BMW M5 m5lover 4.2 12.1 118.2
Porsche 911 Turbo Cab. C&D 9/04 3.8 12.2
BMW M5 wolverine 4.2 12.2 120
Lamborghini Gallardo R&T 3/04 4.0 9.1 12.3 117.40
911 Carerra S Coupe R&T 3/05 3.9 9.6 12.3 114.80
Lamborghini Gallardo C&D 2/04 4.1 12.4
BMW M5 Stream 4.1 12.2 116.40+
E55 AMG R&T 6/03 4.2 9.4 12.4 116.40
911 GT3 R&T 3/05 4.2 9.5 12.4 113.80
911 Turbo (415 HP) R&T 3/05 4.0 9.2 12.4 115.60
BMW M5 Centurion 4.4 12.4 117
E55 AMG C&D 6/04 4.3 12.5
911 Carerra S Coupe C&D 8/04 4.1 12.6
C6 Corvette Z51 C&D 12/04 4.1 12.6
05 911 Carerra S Coupe MT 1/05 4.2 12.6 111.10
BMW M5 vnod 4.3 12.6 115
Mercedes CL600 C&D 8/04 4.3 12.6
CLS55 AMG MT 7/05 4.4 12.6 114.40
C6 Corvette Z51 MT 9/05 4.4 12.6 113.20
C6 Corvette R&T 3/05 4.5 9.8 12.8 114.50
Ferrari 612 Scaglietti R&T 9/05 4.6 10.2 12.8 115.40
SLK55 AMG MT 4/05 4.5 12.8 109.20
911 Carerra C&D 11/04 4.3 12.8
SLK55 AMG R&T 5/05 4.5 10.6 12.9 109.80

Best Fits with Above Cars--The M5's Peers

E55 AMG R&T 6/03 4.2 12.4 116.40
911 GT3 R&T 3/05 4.2 12.4 113.80
911 Turbo (415 HP) R&T 3/05 4.0 12.4 115.60
C&D M5 4.2 12.5 118
E55 AMG C&D 6/04 4.3 12.5
911 Carerra S Coupe C&D 8/04 4.1 12.6
C6 Corvette Z51 C&D 12/04 4.1 12.6
05 911 Carerra S Coupe MT 1/05 4.2 12.6 111.10
CLS55 AMG MT 7/05 4.4 12.6 114.40
Mercedes CL600 C&D 8/04 4.3 12.6
C6 Corvette Z51 MT 9/05 4.4 12.6 113.20

Data For Ranking--

0-60:

Stream 4.1 (Tie for Second--6)
wolverine 4.2 (Tie for First--7)
Bimmer32 4.2 (Tie for First--7)
m5lover 4.2 (Tie for First--7)
C&D 4.2
vnod 4.3 (Tie for Second--6)
cobradav 4.3 (Tie for Second--6)
Centurion 4.4 (Third--5)

1/4 Time:

Bimmer32 11.4 (Fourth--4 )
cobradav 12.1 (Tie for Third--5)
m5lover 12.1 (Tie for Third--5)
Stream 12.2 (Tie for Second--6)
wolverine 12.2 (Tie for Second--6)
Centurion 12.4 (Tie for First--7)
C&D 12.5
vnod 12.6 (Tie for First--7)

1/4 Speed:

cobradav 121 Tie for Fifth--3 )
wolverine 120 (Fourth--4 )
m5lover 118.4 (First--7)
C&D 118 (Note: 118 is very impressive. The M5 is pulling away from its peer group at the end of the 1/4.)
Centurion 117 (Tie for Second--6)
Bimmer32 117 (Tie for Second--6)
Stream 116.40+ (Third--5)
vnod 115 (Tie for Fifth--3 )

Ranking to Date:

1. m5lover = 7 + 5 + 7 = 19
2. Centurion = 5 + 7 + 6 = 18
3. Wolverine = 7 + 6 + 4 = 17
4. Bimmer32 = 7 + 4 + 6 = 17
5. Stream = 6 + 6 + 5 = 17
6. vnod = 6 + 7 + 3 = 16
7. cobradave = 6 + 5 + 3 = 14

It's looking pretty nippie and tuckie right now. A couple of very bads hurt several of the quesstimators. Eventually, I may have to work out a penalty for being too far away from a given C&D result--because ocassionally a far-away score looks too high resulting from ties among the other quesstimators.

Finally, each of the above will receive at least a BMW merit badge. But, especially given the M5's "peers" and nonpeers listed above, the first one that says "yeah, but the M5 is about way more than just acceleration" gets a demerit.

znod

But but but... THEY said...

Well M5board put out a few vids and there was one with a Tuened E55 against the new M5 and both times the E55 lost... so *shrugs* I still think the M5 would be faster than the W211 E55... I know the E55 is scary fast... but its hard to believe the M5 isnt faster.
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I have those vids, and I'm pretty sure it was a stock E55 sedan. Don't you find it curious that when they raced the M5 against the E55 (but not the other cars), they used a rolling start?
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Good point--so the evidence to date suggests.

znod

I'll take that bet (now).

znod

You are the favorite now. But, two mags are left to come in.

m5lover

You are the favorite now. But, two mags are left to come in.
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my m6 is coming!!woot!

stream

I demand a recount!!!!

My numbers assumed a fully functional LC, not the crippled US version...