E60 M5 VS E55 AMG....where can one get..
03-28-2006, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='261268' date='Mar 28 2006, 07:55 AM
any times for the cls 55 ? should be quite a bit quicker
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Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 7/05 4.40 12.60 114.40
Mercedes CLS55 AMG RT 7/05 4.40 12.60 114.40
Mercedes CLS55 AMG CD 10/05 4.20 12.50 115.00
Mercedes CLS55 AMG CD 1/06 4.20 12.60 114.00
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 1/06 4.30 12.50 114.50
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 3/06 4.50 12.70 113.60
Isn't the CLS heavier than the E?
03-28-2006, 12:13 PM
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N?rburgring Lap times (the best in there is the best anywhere):
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
8:06 ? 152.592 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)
does anyone want to go to page 2 and find CLS and E55???
Let MB E65 come. For sure it will be worst than SLR... (and therefore M5)...
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
8:06 ? 152.592 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)
does anyone want to go to page 2 and find CLS and E55???
Let MB E65 come. For sure it will be worst than SLR... (and therefore M5)...
03-28-2006, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Znod' post='261479' date='Mar 28 2006, 07:15 PM
Here you go--all I have.
Straight-Line:
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 7/05 4.40 12.60 114.40
Mercedes CLS55 AMG RT 7/05 4.40 12.60 114.40
Mercedes CLS55 AMG CD 10/05 4.20 12.50 115.00
Mercedes CLS55 AMG CD 1/06 4.20 12.60 114.00
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 1/06 4.30 12.50 114.50
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 3/06 4.50 12.70 113.60
Isn't the CLS heavier than the E?
Straight-Line:
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 7/05 4.40 12.60 114.40
Mercedes CLS55 AMG RT 7/05 4.40 12.60 114.40
Mercedes CLS55 AMG CD 10/05 4.20 12.50 115.00
Mercedes CLS55 AMG CD 1/06 4.20 12.60 114.00
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 1/06 4.30 12.50 114.50
Mercedes CLS55 AMG MT 3/06 4.50 12.70 113.60
Isn't the CLS heavier than the E?
/edit found them
03-28-2006, 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by albmag' post='261533' date='Mar 28 2006, 09:13 PM
N?rburgring Lap times (the best in there is the best anywhere):
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
8:06 ? 152.592 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)
does anyone want to go to page 2 and find CLS and E55???
Let MB E65 come. For sure it will be worst than SLR... (and therefore M5)...
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (sport auto 06/2004)
8:06 ? 152.592 km/h ? Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (sport auto 04/2002)
does anyone want to go to page 2 and find CLS and E55???
Let MB E65 come. For sure it will be worst than SLR... (and therefore M5)...
since my BS meter was set off and i knew for sure there was somethign wrong with your numbers
Here are ZNOD's compilation of official and verified results
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther R?hrl, Autobild (7/2004)
7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, HVS
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004
7:43 --- 2006 Corvette Z06, Jan Magnussen
7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago Autocar Magazine 2002)
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (07/2003) HVS
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2 HVS
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002) HVS
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003) HVS
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004) HVS
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004) HVS
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6, Dave Hill
8:02 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Sport PASM setting), Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:03 --- Porsche 996 GT3 (1999) HVS
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT (07/2000) HVS
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 (12/2002) HVS
8:05 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Normal PASM setting), Walter Rohrl (WHEELS June 2004)
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG HVS
8:06 --- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn
8:06 --- Subaru Impreza Sti spec C - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello (06/1998)
8:09---BMW M6 (2/06)
8:09 --- Honda NSX-R 3.2 (08/2002)
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999) HVS
8:09 --- Lamborghini Diablo SV (no ABS?) HVS
8:10 --- Dodge Viper GTS, 411PS, UK-Spec, no ABS (10/1997) HVS
8:11 --- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (video here)
8:12 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (04/2002) HVS
8:12 --- Porsche 993 Turbo (HVS)
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS (05/1999) HVS
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 PS (10/2004) HVS
8:13 --- BMW M5 (E60) (12/2004) HVS
8:15 --- Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (997) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish (2003) HVS
8:17 --- Porsche 996 C2 HVS
8:18 --- 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition, (09/2003) HVS
8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000) HVS
8:18 --- Ferrari F355 (06/1997) HVS
8:20 --- Audi RS6 (2002) HVS
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55 (07/2004) HVS
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT (2003) HVS
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004) HVS
8:25 --- Audi RS4 375 HP HVS
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG (05/2001) HVS
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z (2003) HVS
8:28 --- BMW M5, 400 PS (also confirmed by Motor Commodore magazine, 2000) HVS
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='261232' date='Mar 28 2006, 04:21 AM
Agree...especially with the last bit.
May i correct it?
"...while the AMG is more of a decent twisty-handling easy rider." old people rider/show off wanabe rider
Hope i didn't offend anyone.
May i correct it?
"...while the AMG is more of a decent twisty-handling easy rider." old people rider/show off wanabe rider
Hope i didn't offend anyone.
03-30-2006, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by 700700' post='261632' date='Mar 29 2006, 02:02 AM
BULL$HIT ALERT
since my BS meter was set off and i knew for sure there was somethign wrong with your numbers
Here are ZNOD's compilation of official and verified results
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther R?hrl, Autobild (7/2004)
7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, HVS
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004
7:43 --- 2006 Corvette Z06, Jan Magnussen
7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago Autocar Magazine 2002)
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (07/2003) HVS
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2 HVS
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002) HVS
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003) HVS
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004) HVS
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004) HVS
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6, Dave Hill
8:02 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Sport PASM setting), Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:03 --- Porsche 996 GT3 (1999) HVS
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT (07/2000) HVS
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 (12/2002) HVS
8:05 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Normal PASM setting), Walter Rohrl (WHEELS June 2004)
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG HVS
8:06 --- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn
8:06 --- Subaru Impreza Sti spec C - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello (06/1998)
8:09---BMW M6 (2/06)
8:09 --- Honda NSX-R 3.2 (08/2002)
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999) HVS
8:09 --- Lamborghini Diablo SV (no ABS?) HVS
8:10 --- Dodge Viper GTS, 411PS, UK-Spec, no ABS (10/1997) HVS
8:11 --- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (video here)
8:12 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (04/2002) HVS
8:12 --- Porsche 993 Turbo (HVS)
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS (05/1999) HVS
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 PS (10/2004) HVS
8:13 --- BMW M5 (E60) (12/2004) HVS
8:15 --- Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (997) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish (2003) HVS
8:17 --- Porsche 996 C2 HVS
8:18 --- 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition, (09/2003) HVS
8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000) HVS
8:18 --- Ferrari F355 (06/1997) HVS
8:20 --- Audi RS6 (2002) HVS
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55 (07/2004) HVS
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT (2003) HVS
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004) HVS
8:25 --- Audi RS4 375 HP HVS
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG (05/2001) HVS
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z (2003) HVS
8:28 --- BMW M5, 400 PS (also confirmed by Motor Commodore magazine, 2000) HVS
since my BS meter was set off and i knew for sure there was somethign wrong with your numbers
Here are ZNOD's compilation of official and verified results
7:28 --- Porsche Carrera GT, Walther R?hrl, Autobild (7/2004)
7:32.4 -- Porsche Carrera GT, HVS
7:40 --- Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig, Autobild July 2004
7:43 --- 2006 Corvette Z06, Jan Magnussen
7:43 --- Porsche 996 911 GT3 RS, factory test driver Walter Rohrl, MOTOR Magazine
7:43.5 - Lamborghini Murcielago Autocar Magazine 2002)
7:44 --- Pagani Zonda C12S (07/2003) HVS
7:46 --- Porsche 996 GT2 HVS
7:50 --- Lamborghini Murcielago (06/2002) HVS
7:52 --- Lamborghini Gallardo E-Gear (12/2003) HVS
7:52 --- Mercedes Benz SLR McLaren (06/2004) HVS
7:55 --- Caterham R500 Superlight (2002)
7:56 --- Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale (02/2004) HVS
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06
7:56 --- Chevrolet Corvette C6, Dave Hill
8:02 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Sport PASM setting), Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:03 --- Porsche 996 GT3 (1999) HVS
8:04 --- Lamborghini Diablo GT (07/2000) HVS
8:05 --- Ferrari 575M Maranello F1 (12/2002) HVS
8:05 --- Porsche 911 Carrera S (997) (Normal PASM setting), Walter Rohrl (WHEELS June 2004)
8:06 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG HVS
8:06 --- Caterham 7 Superlight R, Robert Nearn
8:06 --- Subaru Impreza Sti spec C - Motoharu Kurosawa, Best MOTORing
8:07 --- Ferrari 550 Maranello (06/1998)
8:09---BMW M6 (2/06)
8:09 --- Honda NSX-R 3.2 (08/2002)
8:09 --- Ferrari 360 Modena (10/1999) HVS
8:09 --- Lamborghini Diablo SV (no ABS?) HVS
8:10 --- Dodge Viper GTS, 411PS, UK-Spec, no ABS (10/1997) HVS
8:11 --- Mitsubishi Lancer EVO IX (video here)
8:12 --- Mercedes Benz SL55 AMG (04/2002) HVS
8:12 --- Porsche 993 Turbo (HVS)
8:13 --- Lotus Esprit Sport 350, 354 PS (05/1999) HVS
8:13 --- Dodge Viper SRT-10, 506 PS (10/2004) HVS
8:13 --- BMW M5 (E60) (12/2004) HVS
8:15 --- Porsche 911 Carrera 2 (997) (Walter Rohrl - WHEELS June 2004)
8:17 --- Aston Martin Vanquish (2003) HVS
8:17 --- Porsche 996 C2 HVS
8:18 --- 2004 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 Commemorative Edition, (09/2003) HVS
8:18 --- BMW Z8, 400 PS (08/2000) HVS
8:18 --- Ferrari F355 (06/1997) HVS
8:20 --- Audi RS6 (2002) HVS
8:22 --- Mercedes-Benz C55 (07/2004) HVS
8:23 --- Aston Martin DB7 GT (2003) HVS
8:24 --- Subaru Impreza WRX STi (2004) HVS
8:25 --- Audi RS4 375 HP HVS
8:26 --- Mercedes Benz SLK 32 AMG (05/2001) HVS
8:26 --- Nissan 350Z (2003) HVS
8:28 --- BMW M5, 400 PS (also confirmed by Motor Commodore magazine, 2000) HVS
Good old chap, I don't know who the ...uck is ZNOD and its credibility...
But for sure I know the Ring and the credibility of "Auto Motor und Sport"
Take some German lessons and follow the link:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/71199
Besides that, I've stated that SLR and M5 are able to make the same time at the Ring.
If you are talking about High-speed on a "de-restricted" highway, there's no question about the SLR, but the ring is not exactly and Oval or a 4 just curve circuit...
03-30-2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by albmag' post='262677' date='Mar 30 2006, 09:07 PM
Good old chap, I don't know who the ...uck is ZNOD and its credibility...
But for sure I know the Ring and the credibility of "Auto Motor und Sport"
Take some German lessons and follow the link:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/71199
Besides that, I've stated that SLR and M5 are able to make the same time at the Ring.
If you are talking about High-speed on a "de-restricted" highway, there's no question about the SLR, but the ring is not exactly and Oval or a 4 just curve circuit...
But for sure I know the Ring and the credibility of "Auto Motor und Sport"
Take some German lessons and follow the link:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/d/71199
Besides that, I've stated that SLR and M5 are able to make the same time at the Ring.
If you are talking about High-speed on a "de-restricted" highway, there's no question about the SLR, but the ring is not exactly and Oval or a 4 just curve circuit...
03-30-2006, 01:49 PM
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and besides since you like your german mags how about this
7:40 ? 161.217 km/h ? Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/2004)
strangely how you missed that one?
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg
8:09---BMW M6 (2/06) BMW Official test run
....at around 7:40 we have
7:36 — 162.631 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther R?hrl (2002)
7:39 — 161.575 km/h — Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg
7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)
7:40* — 161.217 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/2003)
and if you tell me that the SLR is not one of the best machines ever created i will have to laugh
http://www.gumball-3000.com/rally/2006/02/...g-nordschleife/
7:40 ? 161.217 km/h ? Mercedes Benz McLaren SLR, Klaus Ludwig (Autobild 07/2004)
strangely how you missed that one?
7:52 ? 157.119 km/h ? BMW M5 (E60), 507 PS/1844 kg
8:09---BMW M6 (2/06) BMW Official test run
....at around 7:40 we have
7:36 — 162.631 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, factory test driver Walther R?hrl (2002)
7:39 — 161.575 km/h — Koenigsegg CCR, 806 PS/1180 kg
7:40 — 161.217 km/h — Porsche GT3 RS, stock but Pirelli P Zero Corsa, Mattias Ekblom (ams)
7:40* — 161.217 km/h — Porsche Carrera GT, *cold and partially wet track (sport auto 12/2003)
and if you tell me that the SLR is not one of the best machines ever created i will have to laugh
http://www.gumball-3000.com/rally/2006/02/...g-nordschleife/