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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter530i' date='Oct 2 2005, 08:01 AM
so any other members who can personaly confirm regular tire swap on "RF"-rim?

also anybody knows if a 225 wide tire will fit 17" 122style wheel where 245 size is now? I believe it is 8J size rim
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225 recommended is 7-8.5 inch so yes on that part. I cannot speak directly to the swap of non RF on RF rim, but have never read anything bad from those that have either on this forum or others.
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 04:53 AM
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I have also found that all BMW rims are rim innner profile "J" code. All todays tires are made "J" as well. Therefore regular tire should fit all standart BMW wheels. This is based on parts numbers and tire shop site
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 05:24 AM
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Just to offer my opinion on the conflicting information here, the wheels that come with the runflats on the E60 are "conventional" wheels, not runflat wheels. The runflat tires are the "self-supporting" type which are designed to be used with these standard rims.
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter530i' date='Oct 2 2005, 06:01 AM
so any other members who can personaly confirm regular tire swap on "RF"-rim?

also anybody knows if a 225 wide tire will fit 17" 122style wheel where 245 size is now? I believe it is 8J size rim
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Yes, I'll confirm a swap. I put Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires on the OEM 18" sport package rims. The tire sizes are the same as the runflats, and the ride and handling are much improved. The turn-in is not quite as quick because the sidewall is a bit softer, but the ride is much, much better. There is no problem whatsoever putting non-runflat tires on runflat rims.

Think of it another way. BMW recommends NOT driving with the runflats in the snow, because they are 'summer' tires. Therefore they are saying that you should substitute other tires for winter (snow) driving. If there was any problem with you using non-runflat winter tires, don't you think there would be a number of HUGE WARNING STICKERS everywhere? (Can't stand those things - I removed them all) Certainly there would be warnings in the manual.
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by wolverine' date='Oct 2 2005, 11:48 AM
[quote name='Peter530i' date='Oct 2 2005, 06:01 AM']so any other members who can personaly confirm regular tire swap on "RF"-rim?

also anybody knows if a 225 wide tire will fit 17" 122style wheel where 245 size is now? I believe it is 8J size rim
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Yes, I'll confirm a swap. I put Michelin Pilot Sport A/S tires on the OEM 18" sport package rims. The tire sizes are the same as the runflats, and the ride and handling are much improved. The turn-in is not quite as quick because the sidewall is a bit softer, but the ride is much, much better. There is no problem whatsoever putting non-runflat tires on runflat rims.

Think of it another way. BMW recommends NOT driving with the runflats in the snow, because they are 'summer' tires. Therefore they are saying that you should substitute other tires for winter (snow) driving. If there was any problem with you using non-runflat winter tires, don't you think there would be a number of HUGE WARNING STICKERS everywhere? (Can't stand those things - I removed them all) Certainly there would be warnings in the manual.
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I wonder why bmw gives us a car with summer tires ? so what is wrong with driving a bmw car in the winter?




I am calling my sale rep tomorrow. I dont want those summers wheels.
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 11:16 AM
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AMIGO525, you seem to be a bit confused here.
Any car in the world should have summer tires for summer and winter tires for winter. Each of those can be also in Runflat version.

So basicaly there are 4 options of tires, which all of them are perfectly fine and have their purpose.

1. summer tires
2. winter tires
3. summer tires Runflat
4. winter tires Runflat
ok amigo
5. all season tires = bull$hit, not a great performce in summer or winter
especially all season tires on hig performance car such E60....uhmmm quiet funny.

The only issue here with some of us is that the runflat version is a little too less comfortable. That is it.

There is nothing wrong with BMW and their tires.
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter530i' date='Oct 2 2005, 01:16 PM
AMIGO525, you seem to be a bit confused here.
Any car in the world should have summer tires for summer and winter tires for winter. Each of those can be also in Runflat version.

So basicaly there are 4 options of tires, which all of them are perfectly fine and have their purpose.

1. summer tires
2. winter tires
3. summer tires Runflat
4. winter tires Runflat


The only issue here with some of us is that the runflat version is a little too less comfortable. That is it.

There is nothing wrong with BMW and their tires.
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I have all seasons tires on my current E60 so maybe it should be
5. all seasons. Either RF non RF
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 11:41 AM
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ok amigo,

5. all season tires = bull$hit, not a great performce in summer or winter either
especially all season tires on high performance car such E60....uhmmmm
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Old Oct 2, 2005 | 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Peter530i' date='Oct 2 2005, 01:41 PM
ok amigo,

5. all season tires = bull$hit, not a great performce in summer or winter either
especially all season tires on high performance car such E60....uhmmmm
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I have them on my current E60 and i am happy with them. No funny noise.

Again, i dont have RF. My upcoming E60 will. I just think I should replace them because of the amount of noise that so many people are experiencing. I havent experience the noise myself that reamins to be seem.

Thanks for replying!
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Old Oct 3, 2005 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by amigo525' date='Oct 2 2005, 01:50 PM
[quote name='Peter530i' date='Oct 2 2005, 01:41 PM']ok amigo,

5. all season tires = bull$hit, not a great performce in summer or winter either
especially all season tires on high performance car such E60....uhmmmm
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I have them on my current E60 and i am happy with them. No funny noise.

Again, i dont have RF. My upcoming E60 will. I just think I should replace them because of the amount of noise that so many people are experiencing. I havent experience the noise myself that reamins to be seem.

Thanks for replying!
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The noise is not that bad (at least wasn't on my iteration of Bridgestone RFs). I drove a 2005 325 loaner and the most noticeable thing was noisier tires. My new non-RFs are quieter but my RFs were really not bad.
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