Replaced Potenza RF with Michelin PS2
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I learned so many of you swiched to the PS2 on this forum. It's only been a few days but the smooth ride and lower noise level is wonderful. As mentioned by others, the crispness of response on turns is not as high, but I have yet to try higher tire pressures. So far, on the few hard turns I tried, there was no loss of grip and ever so slightly increase of body roll. Again, higher pressure may help here. On slower turns, there was no difference of body roll between the tire types. There is just one issue that requires me to relearn the 'line' taken by the car for a given turn of the steering wheel... the PS2's create a wider turning radius for the same speed and turn of the steering wheel. It feels like a lower steering ratio with the RF's and more responsive. Someone might better explain this; I believe it comes from slip angle changes. Accelerating within the turn increased the radius, thus understeering condition, which did not happen with RF's. Traction and grip were not compromised and had I never had RF's, I could not make this comparison since the performance is superb with either tire. Ruts in the road were half as noticable and road irregularities that were transmitted to my back/spine with the RF's are now cushioned out. The occasional irritation to my back by railroad tracks etc. are now non-existent.
Bottom line, I traded in sports car crispness for limosine ride. IMHO, things are different but not better nor worse than before. After a year with these tires, I can make a better judgement call. I look forward to lower tread wear and maybe even better gas mileage.
Bottom line, I traded in sports car crispness for limosine ride. IMHO, things are different but not better nor worse than before. After a year with these tires, I can make a better judgement call. I look forward to lower tread wear and maybe even better gas mileage.
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Originally Posted by sg530' date='Oct 23 2005, 06:08 AM
I learned so many of you swiched to the PS2 on this forum. It's only been a few days but the smooth ride and lower noise level is wonderful.? As mentioned by others, the crispness of response on turns is not as high, but I have yet to try higher tire pressures.? So far, on the few hard turns I tried, there was no loss of grip and ever so slightly increase of body roll. Again, higher pressure may help here.? On slower turns, there was no difference of body roll between the tire types.? There is just one issue that requires me to relearn the 'line' taken by the car for a given turn of the steering wheel... the PS2's create a wider turning radius for the same speed and turn of the steering wheel.? It feels like a lower steering ratio with the RF's and more responsive.? Someone might better explain this; I believe it comes from slip angle changes.? Accelerating within the turn increased the radius, thus understeering condition, which did not happen with RF's.? Traction and grip were not compromised and had I never had RF's, I could not make this comparison since the performance is superb with either tire.? Ruts in the road were half as noticable and road irregularities that were transmitted to my back/spine with the RF's are now cushioned out.? The occasional irritation to my back by railroad tracks etc. are now non-existent.?
Bottom line, I traded in sports car crispness for limosine ride.? IMHO, things are different but not better nor worse than before. After a year with these tires, I can make a better judgement call. I look forward to lower tread wear and maybe even better gas mileage.?
Bottom line, I traded in sports car crispness for limosine ride.? IMHO, things are different but not better nor worse than before. After a year with these tires, I can make a better judgement call. I look forward to lower tread wear and maybe even better gas mileage.?
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Ok I notice a lot of people going with the PS2's instead of the Pilot Sports... whats the real difference? Why the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='Oct 23 2005, 03:12 AM
Ok I notice a lot of people going with the PS2's instead of the Pilot Sports... whats the real difference? Why the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
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Oh hummm ok... Ya I saw the two rubber compound part but didnt really notice the better Racing for the PS2... I saw the better grip part on the Pilot Sports.
I do like the Pilot Sports look more.
I do like the Pilot Sports look more.
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Originally Posted by sg530' date='Oct 23 2005, 08:08 AM
Replaced Potenza RF with Michelin PS2, car now rides and sounds like a 7 series
For me it is a bad thing .
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Originally Posted by BMW#5' date='Oct 23 2005, 08:56 AM
Good move!
Enjoy them.
What size are your tyres?
Enjoy them.
What size are your tyres?
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='Oct 23 2005, 03:12 AM
Ok I notice a lot of people going with the PS2's instead of the Pilot Sports... whats the real difference? Why the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
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Originally Posted by donv' date='Oct 23 2005, 03:22 PM
[quote name='EBMCS03' date='Oct 23 2005, 03:12 AM']Ok I notice a lot of people going with the PS2's instead of the Pilot Sports... whats the real difference? Why the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
Michelin Pilot Sport
Michelin PS2
I guess it sounds like the PS2 is more of a over all tire where as the Pilot Sport is more for grip and racing?
Do you get bett road feel with the PS2?
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[/quote]Dang, after convincing myself that I wanted to stay with Runflats I now want PS2's!!! (And I'm not talking about Playstations!!!)
I'm going to ask about a space-saver spare next Saturday whilst my car is being serviced... ?150 I reckon! :thumbsdown: