You can feel safe in a 5 series
02-28-2008 | 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by pinguhk' post='537107' date='Feb 28 2008, 01:41 AM
what a mess
steering wheel airbag did it deploy?
are they going to sure BMW for that.
steering wheel airbag did it deploy?
are they going to sure BMW for that.
Kinda hard to sue BMW since nobody got hurt.
02-28-2008 | 10:22 AM
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let me join the group that thinks the steering wheel airbag should NOT deploy. From the pics it looks like a side impact. And from the video, it's even more obvious that it's side impact from a car going essentially the same direction. So there is no frontal impact force to trigger the front airbag. Airbag should only be deployed when absolutely necessary. My inlaw had a car accident about 1/2 yr ago in which his car was hit at the passenger side. However, the old toyota camry's front airbag deployed. While he had almost no other injury his face was hit real hard by the air bag and had some minor bruise on one of the eyeballs. So unnecessary airbag deploy is NO GOOD. These things are popped by little explosions!
02-28-2008 | 12:39 PM
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The other reason you don't want it to go off in a side impact, is if you then go on the have a head on impact, it wont be able to protect you. They don't work twice. So if someone hits you in the side, you need the cutain bags there and then, but if you then go off the road into a tree head on, the wheel bag can still protect you. BMW are not daft.
02-28-2008 | 02:22 PM
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The other reason you don't want it to go off in a side impact, is if you then go on the have a head on impact, it wont be able to protect you. They don't work twice. So if someone hits you in the side, you need the cutain bags there and then, but if you then go off the road into a tree head on, the wheel bag can still protect you. BMW are not daft.
I definatly agree with with the above. In a side impact, the side impact curtains should deploy as designed. However, there is a TREMENDOUS amount of frontal damage. Heck, the driver-side door and wheel look just fine - but the front end is DESTROYED, with focused damage to the FRONT, causing impaction of the driver fender up to the wheel, relocation of the airbox to above the wheel, impaction of the radiator support frame, frontal deformation of the hood (along with latch failure), passenger-side damage up to the wheel, etc. This reeks of a T-bone, which knocked the truck off its bearings, into a skid, and ultimately into the house. Exactly how much frontal damage must be done to meet the threshold for releasing the steering wheel airbag???
02-28-2008 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by advancedlogic' post='537456' date='Feb 28 2008, 06:22 PM
I definatly agree with with the above. In a side impact, the side impact curtains should deploy as designed. However, there is a TREMENDOUS amount of frontal damage. Heck, the driver-side door and wheel look just fine - but the front end is DESTROYED, with focused damage to the FRONT, causing impaction of the driver fender up to the wheel, relocation of the airbox to above the wheel, impaction of the radiator support frame, frontal deformation of the hood (along with latch failure), passenger-side damage up to the wheel, etc. This reeks of a T-bone, which knocked the truck off its bearings, into a skid, and ultimately into the house. Exactly how much frontal damage must be done to meet the threshold for releasing the steering wheel airbag???
I agree the front airbag should not have deployed.
02-28-2008 | 03:57 PM
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First I’m glad no one was seriously hurt, and hats off to the firefighters and paramedics! Your roles in society aren't merited enough - Thank you! As for the E60, sad… It looked like a nice ride to.
Also, reading through this thread about the whole airbag deal - amazing. I didn’t realize we had such an exuberant amount of subject matter experts here, and all in this forum. Your willingness to aid with recreating a crash scenario that none had witnessed is just exceptional. You are able to make assessments without interview, limited sight video, and with just a few images. I didn’t realize, but now honored to be surrounded by a vast group of BMW engineers, automotive safety compliance engineers, crash sensor physic engineers, and psychics. Opps, don’t let me forget the miscellaneous SME’s I might have forgot. You people rock! Keep up the good work!
sorry, I couldn't resist. Just know I'm joking... Well except the first part.
Also, reading through this thread about the whole airbag deal - amazing. I didn’t realize we had such an exuberant amount of subject matter experts here, and all in this forum. Your willingness to aid with recreating a crash scenario that none had witnessed is just exceptional. You are able to make assessments without interview, limited sight video, and with just a few images. I didn’t realize, but now honored to be surrounded by a vast group of BMW engineers, automotive safety compliance engineers, crash sensor physic engineers, and psychics. Opps, don’t let me forget the miscellaneous SME’s I might have forgot. You people rock! Keep up the good work!
sorry, I couldn't resist. Just know I'm joking... Well except the first part.
02-28-2008 | 04:29 PM
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Engine: Custom Remus cat-back exhaust w/chrome square tips, K&N Air Filter, Charcoal Filter Removed, Sprint Booster :-), 50/50 mix of 91+100 Octane, EuroRev ECU Remap (coming soon lol), Dinan High-Flow Throttle Body (coming soon...maybe lol)
Interior: Portable Sirius Stilletto 100 w/car kit, Garmin Nuvi 680 mounted below rear-view mirror, LCI-style I-drive knob, Dark Poplar Center Dashboard Trim.
Exterior: E60 forum clings, 5% rear tint, ACS roof spoiler (painted black for distinct look against limo tint), ACS trunk spoiler, ACS add-on front spoiler and rear apron (awaiting installation), "18 Black Staggered BeBeS Style OER (emergency replacement for cracked sport 124 rims), black kidney grill, white accessory lighting (including license and trunk lamps), Angel-eye upgrade, AIB xenon-matched fog lamps, AIB V3's on order, red rear reflectors
Originally Posted by BimmerJay' post='537501' date='Feb 28 2008, 05:57 PM
First I'm glad no one was seriously hurt, and hats off to the firefighters and paramedics! Your roles in society aren't merited enough - Thank you! As for the E60, sad? It looked like a nice ride to.
Also, reading through this thread about the whole airbag deal - amazing. I didn't realize we had such an exuberant amount of subject matter experts here, and all in this forum. Your willingness to aid with recreating a crash scenario that none had witnessed is just exceptional. You are able to make assessments without interview, limited sight video, and with just a few images. I didn't realize, but now honored to be surrounded by a vast group of BMW engineers, automotive safety compliance engineers, crash sensor physic engineers, and psychics. Opps, don't let me forget the miscellaneous SME's I might have forgot. You people rock! Keep up the good work!
sorry, I couldn't resist. Just know I'm joking... Well except the first part.
Also, reading through this thread about the whole airbag deal - amazing. I didn't realize we had such an exuberant amount of subject matter experts here, and all in this forum. Your willingness to aid with recreating a crash scenario that none had witnessed is just exceptional. You are able to make assessments without interview, limited sight video, and with just a few images. I didn't realize, but now honored to be surrounded by a vast group of BMW engineers, automotive safety compliance engineers, crash sensor physic engineers, and psychics. Opps, don't let me forget the miscellaneous SME's I might have forgot. You people rock! Keep up the good work!
sorry, I couldn't resist. Just know I'm joking... Well except the first part.
You'd be surprised as to the varying roles our affluent (or at least well-to-do) members play in society. That said, it's not exactly rocket science (or, for that matter, advanced physics) to ascertain that a tremendous amount of collision forces were exerted, considering one 2+ ton vehicle is resting comfortably on its side, and the other has significant enough damage to a large portion of its high-strength aluminum parts. The airbag question simply queries wether a particular airbag should have deployed based on the amount of damaged seen, or is the sensor logic infallible (or at least correct). The occupant was unharmed - a testimate to the safety systems effectiveness as designed. However, would firing of the front airbag offer additional, fail-safe protection in such an accident? Many believe not, and have offered convincing arguments, regardless of their job classification. I'm still unsure, but am more open to the idea that the car may have been right in this instance.
02-28-2008 | 04:32 PM
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The steering wheel airbag did not deploy. 
02-28-2008 | 06:23 PM
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My Ride: 2004 BMW 530i - no mods. Pretty basic really. I mean it has tires, windows, and a sweet look, what more could a man want? Honestly, I'd like to improve the sound system mildly, and possibly find a worthy engine mod that would increase my BHP by 100 without giving an arm and a leg for. I don't think it's out there, so I'll stay stock and love driving my 530i.
Originally Posted by advancedlogic' post='537508' date='Feb 28 2008, 08:29 PM
I'm still unsure, but am more open to the idea that the car may have been right in this instance.
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Jay