Resistance On IDrive Controller w/16.2
05-20-2005, 12:07 AM
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Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='May 19 2005, 07:06 PM
Ya its only for NAV equipped cars. suprised people are only talking about it now... I thought it was standard from the get go for Nav Cars... I knew about this a LONG time ago and was complaining I didnt know so many "extras" come wiht NAV and not just NAV itself.
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Ther you have it, another problem solved! I love this place!
05-20-2005, 05:50 AM
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It does it on my ProNAV - especially when I scroll down the TRAFFIC INFORMATION list (and BT Phone directory)
What worries me, is that you are wearing out the ratchet/clutch device on it.
What worries me, is that you are wearing out the ratchet/clutch device on it.
05-20-2005, 06:27 AM
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Originally Posted by AlanM' date='May 20 2005, 08:50 AM
It does it on my ProNAV - especially when I scroll down the TRAFFIC INFORMATION list (and BT Phone directory)
What worries me, is that you are wearing out the ratchet/clutch device on it.
What worries me, is that you are wearing out the ratchet/clutch device on it.
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05-20-2005, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by New535' date='May 20 2005, 07:27 AM
It's probably an electromagnetic stop, rather than a mechanical one. So I wouldn't worry about wearing it out.
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05-21-2005, 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 530iii' date='May 20 2005, 06:35 PM
Isn't this called "force feedback"? 
I like it!
I like it!
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Things like this will probably live on and on until all the other issues have been sorted out. Unfortunately UI often takes last priority in software design, even though it is often the bit that makes or breaks the software.
05-21-2005, 02:59 AM
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It's normal and to me it makes sense now, but in the beginning it felt a little odd. Maybe not the best interaction design..
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My Ride: 2005 545i, Black on black. 6spd MT, Nav, sports package.
I think BMW put this into the menus that are longer than others. It is normal and I understand why it is there...
When you are scrolling through one of those menus, the harder you push the knob against the resistance, the faster it scrolls through the list... It's simply a way for the user to control how fast you scroll up and down.
Also I like the fact that it clicks for each item that you scroll through.. For example if you look on the screen, and see that you have to go down two spaces, you just turn the knob until you feel two clicks, without taking your eyes off the road.
I do find it annoying sometimes when the system lags, but overall it's not that bad.
When you are scrolling through one of those menus, the harder you push the knob against the resistance, the faster it scrolls through the list... It's simply a way for the user to control how fast you scroll up and down.
Also I like the fact that it clicks for each item that you scroll through.. For example if you look on the screen, and see that you have to go down two spaces, you just turn the knob until you feel two clicks, without taking your eyes off the road.
I do find it annoying sometimes when the system lags, but overall it's not that bad.
05-21-2005, 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by goyk' date='May 21 2005, 05:59 AM
I think BMW put this into the menus that are longer than others. It is normal and I understand why it is there...
When you are scrolling through one of those menus, the harder you push the knob against the resistance, the faster it scrolls through the list... It's simply a way for the user to control how fast you scroll up and down.
Also I like the fact that it clicks for each item that you scroll through.. For example if you look on the screen, and see that you have to go down two spaces, you just turn the knob until you feel two clicks, without taking your eyes off the road.
I do find it annoying sometimes when the system lags, but overall it's not that bad.
When you are scrolling through one of those menus, the harder you push the knob against the resistance, the faster it scrolls through the list... It's simply a way for the user to control how fast you scroll up and down.
Also I like the fact that it clicks for each item that you scroll through.. For example if you look on the screen, and see that you have to go down two spaces, you just turn the knob until you feel two clicks, without taking your eyes off the road.
I do find it annoying sometimes when the system lags, but overall it's not that bad.
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I think the speed thing is a byproduct i.e the harder you push it, the more quickly the dial returns from its stop position - I don't think there is any control over the level or resistance the system offers - a useful byproduct, but I doubt it's by design.
The other problem, as someone else has pointed out, is it is sometimes quite difficult to get to the item you actually want, by overshooting. This could easily be sorted out, but again it needs someone to spend some time on the exact timing of the clicks.
To be honest though all of these points are relatively minor, overall I think the system works reasonably well. If only it were a little more responsive and didn't do odd things so often!
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