Put Put Puttering problems (HELP) (transmission gasket?)
10-22-2009, 10:21 AM
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Hi Guys,
I bought an 04 BMW 530i (with BMW Certified Series Warranty until March 2010) recently which was well cared for and maintained by a friend's dad. However since I received it, I've noticed that upon acceleration around 15-25 mph, my car seems as if its 'puttering.' I don't know the technical term for this but when you press on the gas, its acceleration doesn't respond in a consistent fashion. The same feeling I had in an old standard car that hasn't been warmed up enough and stalls.
ANYWAYS, I took it to BMW and they 'think' it is a leaky transmission gasket. He then said although the gasket is cheap, the labor is not because we have to pump out the transmission fluid and then replace it with 6L of new ($80 per L) transmission fluid. Bill $1200 CAD. Oh and the Certified series warranty will cover cost of gasket ($12), but no labor/fluids. I topped off the tranny fluid (2L) and said I'd think about it.
I'm not a car expert by all means, but could this actually translate to my puttering problem? If so, should I go ahead and do it?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
I bought an 04 BMW 530i (with BMW Certified Series Warranty until March 2010) recently which was well cared for and maintained by a friend's dad. However since I received it, I've noticed that upon acceleration around 15-25 mph, my car seems as if its 'puttering.' I don't know the technical term for this but when you press on the gas, its acceleration doesn't respond in a consistent fashion. The same feeling I had in an old standard car that hasn't been warmed up enough and stalls.
ANYWAYS, I took it to BMW and they 'think' it is a leaky transmission gasket. He then said although the gasket is cheap, the labor is not because we have to pump out the transmission fluid and then replace it with 6L of new ($80 per L) transmission fluid. Bill $1200 CAD. Oh and the Certified series warranty will cover cost of gasket ($12), but no labor/fluids. I topped off the tranny fluid (2L) and said I'd think about it.
I'm not a car expert by all means, but could this actually translate to my puttering problem? If so, should I go ahead and do it?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
10-22-2009, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by turboawd' post='1038329' date='Oct 22 2009, 01:44 PM
$80/litre? wtf?
was the car hessitating to shift or something?
seem fishy.
was the car hessitating to shift or something?
seem fishy.
This quote was from a BMW dealership in Richmond B.C. Canada.
10-22-2009, 11:29 AM
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I just did this last night on my 06 530i. Their pricing is ridiculous.
1st off, they should clearly be able to see if there is a oil leak by the tranny pan.
If there is a leak and all they are doing is changing the seal, they should just reuse the oil.
$80/liter is just ridiculous. I just bought the same for $16/liter (Pentosin, oem oil supplier)
It takes a total of 2 hrs on a lift to do this. It took me 3 hrs because I spent an hr putting the car up on stands.
My cost to do all this including a new pan/filter ($155) was $251 in parts.
Heck, come down, I could do it for 1/2 the $$
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Good luck.
Raj
1st off, they should clearly be able to see if there is a oil leak by the tranny pan.
If there is a leak and all they are doing is changing the seal, they should just reuse the oil.
$80/liter is just ridiculous. I just bought the same for $16/liter (Pentosin, oem oil supplier)
It takes a total of 2 hrs on a lift to do this. It took me 3 hrs because I spent an hr putting the car up on stands.
My cost to do all this including a new pan/filter ($155) was $251 in parts.
Heck, come down, I could do it for 1/2 the $$
. Good luck.
Raj
10-22-2009, 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by 968turboS' post='1038388' date='Oct 22 2009, 02:29 PM
I just did this last night on my 06 530i. Their pricing is ridiculous.
1st off, they should clearly be able to see if there is a oil leak by the tranny pan.
If there is a leak and all they are doing is changing the seal, they should just reuse the oil.
$80/liter is just ridiculous. I just bought the same for $16/liter (Pentosin, oem oil supplier)
It takes a total of 2 hrs on a lift to do this. It took me 3 hrs because I spent an hr putting the car up on stands.
My cost to do all this including a new pan/filter ($155) was $251 in parts.
Heck, come down, I could do it for 1/2 the $$.
Good luck.
Raj
1st off, they should clearly be able to see if there is a oil leak by the tranny pan.
If there is a leak and all they are doing is changing the seal, they should just reuse the oil.
$80/liter is just ridiculous. I just bought the same for $16/liter (Pentosin, oem oil supplier)
It takes a total of 2 hrs on a lift to do this. It took me 3 hrs because I spent an hr putting the car up on stands.
My cost to do all this including a new pan/filter ($155) was $251 in parts.
Heck, come down, I could do it for 1/2 the $$
. Good luck.
Raj
How many liters of trans fluid do you need to do the fluid change?
10-22-2009, 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by StasGS4' post='1038478' date='Oct 22 2009, 05:31 PM
Raj,
How many liters of trans fluid do you need to do the fluid change?
How many liters of trans fluid do you need to do the fluid change?
Raj
10-22-2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by appartment46' post='1038308' date='Oct 22 2009, 02:21 PM
Hi Guys,
I bought an 04 BMW 530i (with BMW Certified Series Warranty until March 2010) recently which was well cared for and maintained by a friend's dad. However since I received it, I've noticed that upon acceleration around 15-25 mph, my car seems as if its 'puttering.' I don't know the technical term for this but when you press on the gas, its acceleration doesn't respond in a consistent fashion. The same feeling I had in an old standard car that hasn't been warmed up enough and stalls.
ANYWAYS, I took it to BMW and they 'think' it is a leaky transmission gasket. He then said although the gasket is cheap, the labor is not because we have to pump out the transmission fluid and then replace it with 6L of new ($80 per L) transmission fluid. Bill $1200 CAD. Oh and the Certified series warranty will cover cost of gasket ($12), but no labor/fluids. I topped off the tranny fluid (2L) and said I'd think about it.
I'm not a car expert by all means, but could this actually translate to my puttering problem? If so, should I go ahead and do it?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
I bought an 04 BMW 530i (with BMW Certified Series Warranty until March 2010) recently which was well cared for and maintained by a friend's dad. However since I received it, I've noticed that upon acceleration around 15-25 mph, my car seems as if its 'puttering.' I don't know the technical term for this but when you press on the gas, its acceleration doesn't respond in a consistent fashion. The same feeling I had in an old standard car that hasn't been warmed up enough and stalls.
ANYWAYS, I took it to BMW and they 'think' it is a leaky transmission gasket. He then said although the gasket is cheap, the labor is not because we have to pump out the transmission fluid and then replace it with 6L of new ($80 per L) transmission fluid. Bill $1200 CAD. Oh and the Certified series warranty will cover cost of gasket ($12), but no labor/fluids. I topped off the tranny fluid (2L) and said I'd think about it.
I'm not a car expert by all means, but could this actually translate to my puttering problem? If so, should I go ahead and do it?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
Why isn't the leak covered by the CPO warranty? I would fight that, since its drivetrain related. If it were the factory warranty they would fix it no questions asked. Ask to speak to the sales manager.
10-22-2009, 02:16 PM
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What you're describing is what I'd call "hesitation" and I also experienced it with my 2004 530i just as you described. However, I took my car to the dealer (out of the warranty period) and they fixed it for free with a software update. Thus, I'd request that your dealer double-check your car to see that it received all the necessary recall/software updates issued by BMW NA.
Also if your problem is truly a leaky gasket, the dealer should be able to show you evidence of the problem (e.g., presurre readings, evidence of leaking near the failed gasket etc.). If you're convinced that it's a gasket issue, I'd take your car to an independent dealer for the repair, as they can perform the labor for far less.
Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
Also if your problem is truly a leaky gasket, the dealer should be able to show you evidence of the problem (e.g., presurre readings, evidence of leaking near the failed gasket etc.). If you're convinced that it's a gasket issue, I'd take your car to an independent dealer for the repair, as they can perform the labor for far less.
Good luck, and let us know how it turns out.
10-22-2009, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by appartment46' post='1038308' date='Oct 22 2009, 02:21 PM
Hi Guys,
I bought an 04 BMW 530i (with BMW Certified Series Warranty until March 2010) recently which was well cared for and maintained by a friend's dad. However since I received it, I've noticed that upon acceleration around 15-25 mph, my car seems as if its 'puttering.' I don't know the technical term for this but when you press on the gas, its acceleration doesn't respond in a consistent fashion. The same feeling I had in an old standard car that hasn't been warmed up enough and stalls.
ANYWAYS, I took it to BMW and they 'think' it is a leaky transmission gasket. He then said although the gasket is cheap, the labor is not because we have to pump out the transmission fluid and then replace it with 6L of new ($80 per L) transmission fluid. Bill $1200 CAD. Oh and the Certified series warranty will cover cost of gasket ($12), but no labor/fluids. I topped off the tranny fluid (2L) and said I'd think about it.
I'm not a car expert by all means, but could this actually translate to my puttering problem? If so, should I go ahead and do it?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
I bought an 04 BMW 530i (with BMW Certified Series Warranty until March 2010) recently which was well cared for and maintained by a friend's dad. However since I received it, I've noticed that upon acceleration around 15-25 mph, my car seems as if its 'puttering.' I don't know the technical term for this but when you press on the gas, its acceleration doesn't respond in a consistent fashion. The same feeling I had in an old standard car that hasn't been warmed up enough and stalls.
ANYWAYS, I took it to BMW and they 'think' it is a leaky transmission gasket. He then said although the gasket is cheap, the labor is not because we have to pump out the transmission fluid and then replace it with 6L of new ($80 per L) transmission fluid. Bill $1200 CAD. Oh and the Certified series warranty will cover cost of gasket ($12), but no labor/fluids. I topped off the tranny fluid (2L) and said I'd think about it.
I'm not a car expert by all means, but could this actually translate to my puttering problem? If so, should I go ahead and do it?
THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!
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25 second transmission reset: insert the key fob, push the start button without pushing the brakes, then hold the gas pedal down.
After 25-30 seconds remove foot from gas pedal, push the brakes and start the car.
Or if you have a key: Turn the key all the way like you're starting the car but don't put your foot on the brake. Then hold the gas pedal down. After 25-30 seconds remove foot from gas pedal, push the brakes and start the car.
I've read that if you keep the gas pedal down for 35 seconds or longer this procedure won't work.
After 25-30 seconds remove foot from gas pedal, push the brakes and start the car.
Or if you have a key: Turn the key all the way like you're starting the car but don't put your foot on the brake. Then hold the gas pedal down. After 25-30 seconds remove foot from gas pedal, push the brakes and start the car.
I've read that if you keep the gas pedal down for 35 seconds or longer this procedure won't work.
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