znod

It looks like you are interpreting colums A, B, and C as the results of different runs. But, if so, then that's not the idea. Columns A, B, and C have to do with different interpretations of the same run.

Swab that deck, and yo ho. Great about tomorrow; I am eager to see some data from you.

znod

It was third worst I think. But, regardless, I noticed that it wasn't very good, and I was surprised. The run felt good off the line. I may have had just enough wheel spin to slow me a bit at the outset, but then to send me off like a bullet later. And, sometimes, I think the GT2 gives some 0 to 10 values that seem too low. And, you can't always reconcile everything. I'll be looking forward to your new data.

znod

Yes, I noticed exactly the same thing.

I am thinking exactly the same things. But, if the Step was shifting the way it used to, then this problem probably wouldn't exist--although it might have existed without me knowing and, thus, explain some 0 - 60 variability. I am going to see if I can get the Step to hold second longer by holding forward on my next attempt.

I am not sure why it is working for you. My quess is that it works for you simply because you sometimes hit a "sweet spot" such that you would have broken loose moderately, but the DSC/DTC does just enough to keep you from breaking loose without retarding HP. But, maybe I am just stating the obvious. I don't think the technique will work if one can't break the car loose pretty well.

Yes. They both are coming off on Tuesday.

znod

Thanks again for checking the shift points.

I am happy. No problems. It all will work out. I like solving problems. Thank you for your support.

znod

Wanna see something interesting g-man? I am too tired to be thinking about this now. But, do you recall the values in purple below? They are the values at which I concluded that my step is starting my 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. Notice how they relate to the values in orange above. They are pretty close. I am trying to work out in my head whether, the Pro RR could be picking up starting shift points in one place and ending shift points in another. I am going to bed now, but how about thinking with me on this issue. I am gong to sleep on it, and I am sure I'll have the answer in the moning.

(5,346 / 6,500(34.28769707) = 28.20
(6,158 / 6,500)61.10243456 = 57.89

And, what is the Step doing between the RPM at which it starts to shift and the RPM at which it ends a shift? Are RPM's increasing in between? Staying the same? Decreasing? I would hope somehow that the answer is increasing.

cobradav

I am not sure what you mean about discarding run two--which is an outlier.

It looks like you are interpreting colums A, B, and C as the results of different runs. But, if so, then that's not the idea. Columns A, B, and C have to do with different interpretations of the same run.

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Yep, I interpreted the data incorrectly. I'll have to watch that my self. There are some tools about for editing Pass data and for entering into Excel for further analysis. Obviously I have not tried them yet, but hope to soon.

Some links to these here:

http://www.reasontech.net/PASSedit/

http://members.chello.nl/~r.herweyer/

grogan545

Hi g-man. Opps, I though I was replying to cobradav about the snow. I know that you don't need anything more to do that is test related. But, thanks for trying to answer below.

I agree. Sorry for imposing this burden on you. As mentioned, I thought I was replying to cobradav.

Right, your tire size might do the trick consistently for you.

Yes. They both are coming off on Tuesday.
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Not a burden at all Z-man,I like analyziing data and looking for answers to problems.

Your right about the "sweet spot" and I get more familiar with the start I hope to hit it consistently.You have other problems to contend with now,but once you get your power back I would definitly try my method again.The most difficult step is not getting into the throttle too soon.It sounds easy but when your all "hopped up" to make a speed run it is difficult to control the right foot(speaking for myself).I believe it works best by going to full throttle with steady movement taking about 1 to 1.5 sec's.I tried 6 runs since I started using this method and have hit the "sweet" spot twice.The first time with the results I pm'd to you and the second time was the 5.00 S run.Judging by previous history if I subtract .17 sec from 5.00 I get a 4.83 sec 0-60 in hte N direction(pm data seems more possible now).Two way average of 4.92 sec.

Anxiously looking forward to your results after your remove the modds.

znod

Great, I'll check them out. Also, look at my last post about possibilities related to columns A, B, and C. Looking forward to your's cobradata.

grogan545

Wanna see something interesting g-man? I am too tired to be thinking about this now. But, do you recall the values in purple below? They are the values at which I concluded that my step is starting my 1-2 and 2-3 shifts. Notice how they relate to the values in orange above. They are pretty close. I am trying to work out in my head whether, the Pro RR could be picking up starting shift points in one place and ending shift points in another. I am going to bed now, but how about thinking with me on this issue. I am gong to sleep on it, and I am sure I'll have the answer in the moning.

(5,346 / 6,500(34.28769707) = 28.20
(6,158 / 6,500)61.10243456 = 57.89

And, what is the Step doing between the RPM at which it starts to shift and the RPM at which it ends a shift? Are RPM's increasing in between? Staying the same? Decreasing? I would hope somehow that the answer is increasing.
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I have noticed at times that the step takes much longer to complete a shift.This could be what happened in the "flukey"data you got on some of your shift's.As we know during a shift the engine controls reduce power to facilitate a "smoother" shift to reduce driveline shock.If the shift starts much earlier say 5147 rpm,the power is reduced for a much longer time period thereby causing poor times.Maybe this is the source of your problem.Your dealer redid the engine map,maybe they should try the trans program.

znod

Good morning. Please see the orange insert above. The calculations don't necessaryily imply anything about your car. But, I wonder if your tire sizes are that different from the stock sport package tires--used in the first two calculations. So, as mentioned, I wonder if your car really is doing all of its shifting after 60 MPH.

And, I know where to find your sweet spot instructions. Thanks. Finally, wow, if what you say holds up, then I will be looking forward to a less than 5 sec. average. Happy snow days.