Iceman

Well, what makes you think YOU are right?
15.2 fixes some minor bugs!

urbo73

Well, what makes you think YOU are right?
15.2 fixes some minor bugs!
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Because I've seen the 15.0 - 15.2 CIP releases, and the SW package for the E60 is the SAME - E060-04-09-555. It's that simple! People and dealers are all confused about CIP vs the car's software version. I made a thread a while back and some people got it and other didn't. I don't know. But I do know on this one I'm correct

Also I'm a Patriots fan, so I have to be right, no?

Iceman

Nope.

15.1 fixes bugs, 15.2 fixes bugs. Minor bugs, but they are not the same as 15.0.

EBMCS03

Does it fix bugs for the E60? or other BMWs?

urbo73

Nope.

15.1 fixes bugs, 15.2 fixes bugs. Minor bugs, but they are not the same as 15.0.
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Oh yeah? Tell me then - PM me if you want. I know what I've seen. The E60 code is the SAME on all 15.x CIP versions I've seen. And they are the same (the CIP packages). Again E060-04-09-555. What SW version do you see on CIP 15.0 vs 15.2? E90 code is different, but not E60. Tell me before people here go and waste time "upgrading" from E060-04-09-555 to E060-04-09-555

Hormazd

Urbo, could it be possible that in keeping with your CIP theory that maybe the changes/enhancements for the E60 do not change but that maybe the core code does and hence issues like stability and boot up time are improved.

I understand your theory and agree in principle with it. That is there may be no published changes between 15.0 and 15.2 for the E60. Bit lets say they released 15.2 with an enhancement to the E63. Meanwhile the engineers are working on a core upgrade which inproves the base system. They throw it in the CIP release and send it to the dealers. They only publish the change for the e63 but in practice the E60 gets newer code too. Think of each upgrade as potential change to both application and OS. In my example the application for the E63 changed and so did the OS.

urbo73

Hormazd,

Not from what I've seen. If a change is made in the code for the E60, naturally the SW version changes as well. So it would have to be E060-04-09-556 or something higher than -555. CIP releases are just a collection of packages for each platform that can be programmed - BMW, Rolls Royce, etc. CIP 15.0 can have for example:

E060-04-09-555 & E090-xx-xx-xxx

Say the engineers have something to change (ANYTHING) for the E90. Then they come out with E090-xx-xx-yyy, BMW issues a new CIP package 15.1, but the E60 package hasn't changed in CIP 15.1.

It has nothing to do with published changes. This method makes it simpler for one to see! There are unpublished changes in all the time I assume... Small stuff. Dealers don't even know. It WILL show up though as a different -XXX when you get a "Status report" printed or look in the CIP package. And if you get a "Vehicle Status" of E060-04-09-555 and a "Target Status" of E060-04-09-556 you WILL know a change (however small or big) CAN take place if the dealer goes ahead and programs your car. And again, the dealer may NEVER even know what the change is, if it's small. He'll just know there IS a change. And so will you. If your "Status report" prints the same versions for Vehicle and Target then you KNOW the CIP that the dealer has (say 15.2) has NOTHING to offer for your E60 that was programmed with CIP say 15.1.

Hormazd

OK. I'll buy that.

Iceman

Do you?
15.1 had a cange and 15.2 too.

my530i

OK, Patriots. I understand your point and I just share my understanding with your theory/fact.

Let's say in CIP 15.0, it consists of
E060-xx-xx-555
E090-xx-xx-001
E065-xx-xx-456

Then there is an upgrade in E090, so they'll release CIP 15.1, for example. So, CIP 15.1 will consists of
E060-xx-xx-555
E090-xx-xx-002 <== NEW
E065-xx-xx-456

So, the E60 and E065 does not have any change at all. Only E90 does.
Is that right?

Usually, dealer will have a list of what are the fixes in the new CIP. Rudy can extract one example from BMW TIS which tell what new CIP fixes current CIP.