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Sep 7, 2007 | 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='467052' date='Sep 7 2007, 02:02 PM

Will not tell you anything if you can even use it now. Some have reported that the iDrive (not dash) hidden menu technique no longer works. However, I may be confusing true LCI vehicles with those updated with v26.xx.xx and higher. In any case those of us with nav cannot determin CIP (PROGMAN) level. Did you get any copies of your "reports" such as Measures Plan or Final Report. Those provide your old and new Target Data Status (TDS) which can be translated into a PROGMAN level (to some extent). Current TDS from 25.02.00 on is E60-07-03-525. I say to some extent as recently we have seen the TDS remain the same from 25.02.00 (back in May) through the most recent updates accomplished in August even though dealers have been stating v26.xx or even v27.xx. I believe this is due to the fact that no car functions have been changed. Only the way the dealer equipment handles PROGMAN or how it behaves DURING the update process.

Many that have had problems with recent updates might try going back in for re-programming as the quirks and outright errors in the upgrade process can leave gremlins in the many modules that are updated. That is why BMW (or their supplyer) are having to make these tweakes to the software even though no real fixes to the vehicles systems.

It says "reprogram and coded complete vehicle as per 84-20-06 refer to ksd for warranty" Does that make sense?

Sep 7, 2007 | 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FLBeamer' post='467204' date='Sep 7 2007, 11:27 PM

It says "reprogram and coded complete vehicle as per 84-20-06 refer to ksd for warranty" Does that make sense?

They just selected one of your problems or the only one you may have reported when car brought it in as the reason (required for authorization for upgrade) for the software upgrade. Look how old this SIB is (9/2006). One of the things I preach is always ask for copies of all diagnostic reports, plans, etc. when you take car in to be given to you when you pick up car. Helps you learn about your car and the dealer processes. I have every one of my Final Reports and Measures Plans so I know what's going on. I even was able to point out when dealer installed incorrect software version (one back from the then current version and from what he THOUGHT I got). Tech had saved an older version cause like other techs they are afraid of new releases until they prove to be problem free. They cannot go back once newer version is loaded. He accidenly loaded it but told SA it was the nerwer version. Armed with the reports I was adble to show them the error of their ways. In this case they later came to the house and dropped off loaner and took my car in for the CORRECT upgrade.

SI B 84 20 06
Phone, Navigation Systems September 2006
Technical Service

This Service Information bulletin supersedes S.I. B84 20 06 dated June 2006.

(New) designates changes to this revision

SUBJECT
CCC Navigation Stuck on "Accept" Screen

MODEL
E90, E91 (3 Series) with SA609 CCC Navigation

E60, E61 (5 Series) with SA609 CCC Navigation

E63, E64 (6 Series)

SITUATION
The customer states that sporadically, it is not possible to acknowledge the "Accept" button on the navigation system disclaimer screen using the controller.

CAUSE

Faulty Controller

CCC software

PROCEDURE
Fault currently present

Perform a short test on the vehicle and diagnose any CCC (Car Communication Computer) faults first.

The following steps are only valid if the Controller fault is currently present.

Select "Control Module functions" using DIS/GT1.

Select "CON Controller" from the control module list.

Select "Diagnosis requests" and "-Control knob".

Select "Pressure function" and "Display"

Press down on the Controller and the display should change from "not pressed" to "pressed".

If the status does not change or an error is displayed, replace the Controller.

If the status change is correct for the controller, perform a battery reset to regain functionality of the Controller. Do not replace any parts if the Controller is working properly. A future version of Progman will correct this fault.

Fault NOT currently present

(New) On a customer complaint basis only, update the complete vehicle per SI B09 05 01 (Coding, Individualization, Programming) Procedure B:

(New) E60, E61, E63, E64 use Progman V23.00.00 (Target Data Status E060-06-09-520) or higher.

(New) E90, E91 use Progman V22.02.00 (Target Data Status E089x-06-06-540) or higher.

WARRANTY INFORMATION
Covered under the terms of the BMW New Vehicle Limited Warranty.

Defect Code Refer to KSD

Labor Operation: Refer to KSD

Labor Allowance: Refer to KSD