MP3 DVD: Limited number of files?
04-27-2006, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by twh' post='274727' date='Apr 27 2006, 09:40 AM
Too bad the regular audio CD slot isn't just a CD/DVD-DL and then we could have the NAV DVD in at the same time. The cost delta between CD and CD/DVD is minimal these days.
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04-27-2006, 10:44 AM
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I went a bit further with experiment and burned a DVD+R DL full of MP3 files coded at various bitrates.
First to mention that I have used a Traxdata 2.4x speed disc with Pioneer (A08) burner and Nero software.
My findings are the following:
General conclusion: DL discs are readable in Professional Nav system.
but in detail,
a) disc has readable folders and subfolders structure
b) it takes a longer time to access all folder tree (10-12 sec)
c) although music on the beginning of the disc plays fine,
d) music on the second layer plays jerky and not all music in folders can be played (IDrive freezes in the menu and you might need to reboot the system)
I will also try my luck with Verbatim DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL 4x speed to see if I can get a disc which plays all songs from beginning to the end of the disc.
So, a proper procedure in burning DVD (media and writing speed) should operate just fine.
All advices are welcome
My details: E60, Feb. 2005., CIP 20.0, NavPro, Standard european speaker package (shitty one)
First to mention that I have used a Traxdata 2.4x speed disc with Pioneer (A08) burner and Nero software.
My findings are the following:
General conclusion: DL discs are readable in Professional Nav system.
but in detail,
a) disc has readable folders and subfolders structure
b) it takes a longer time to access all folder tree (10-12 sec)
c) although music on the beginning of the disc plays fine,
d) music on the second layer plays jerky and not all music in folders can be played (IDrive freezes in the menu and you might need to reboot the system)
I will also try my luck with Verbatim DVD+R DL and DVD-R DL 4x speed to see if I can get a disc which plays all songs from beginning to the end of the disc.
So, a proper procedure in burning DVD (media and writing speed) should operate just fine.
All advices are welcome
My details: E60, Feb. 2005., CIP 20.0, NavPro, Standard european speaker package (shitty one)
04-27-2006, 05:07 PM
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My experiences with burning DL DVD discs have been pretty hit and miss. It reminds me of the early days of burning CD's -- you had to make sure you did everything exactly right and your computer wasn't doing anything else while the burn was taking place.
Now, with the newer and faster computers, burning CD's and DVD's is pretty routine but burning DL DVD's still results in a lot of drink coasters...
Now, with the newer and faster computers, burning CD's and DVD's is pretty routine but burning DL DVD's still results in a lot of drink coasters...
05-01-2006, 05:40 AM
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I finally got around to opening my MP3 DVD compilation in Nero to see if I could get some stats on how many files and folders I burnt to my single layer DVD.
Here is the information I found:
Files: 1,666
Folders: 138 (40 folders are artist names (top-level) and the rest are album names)
Total data to be written: 4,519 MB
All MP3 files are 128kbps bit rate (44kHz sampling rate).
Don't know if that helps but I figured someone might find it interesting...
Here is the information I found:
Files: 1,666
Folders: 138 (40 folders are artist names (top-level) and the rest are album names)
Total data to be written: 4,519 MB
All MP3 files are 128kbps bit rate (44kHz sampling rate).
Don't know if that helps but I figured someone might find it interesting...
05-01-2006, 06:04 AM
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Spent yesterday building my DL DVD with 7.4 GB, 1066 files, 116 folders of 49 artists and what happened, iDrive failed before I could test it out. :thumbsdown: Min bit rate is 192kbs, with about 50% of files at 256kbs or greater (320kbs). Burned with iTunes at 2x, but cannot report results until car fixed. Sure is quiet now on my drive to from work. Heck I may even drive the truck just to listen to SAT RADIO at least. Ooops, cannot do that - have to replace the carrier bearing in the half shaft. Oh well... when it rains, it pours.
On the iDrive I have the dreaded CCC failure (or MOST bus failure) of BMW Banner for 2 minutes, then blank for 10 sec, then BMW banner for 2 minutes and ....... and so it goes. Scheduled in Thursday.
On the iDrive I have the dreaded CCC failure (or MOST bus failure) of BMW Banner for 2 minutes, then blank for 10 sec, then BMW banner for 2 minutes and ....... and so it goes. Scheduled in Thursday.
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Update on 2 fronts: 1) got car back from having no iDrive whatsoever. Only BMW banner alternating with blank screen. Straight out of SIB 84 08 05, whoch should have had a fault code and a hardware fault - but... only required a PROGMAN update, 21.03.00 according to SA but I was not aware we were at that level yet. That worries me for the obvious reasons, why/how did this happen and is something lying in wait for the next one? Although the MEASURES PLAN (copy supplied as requested) plainly states that all settings were saved and subsequently restored and checked out, my NAV address book was empty. DAMN :thumbsdown:
2) Now able to check out DL DVD as described two posts previous. As best I can tell it works. With nearly 100 hours of music on the DVD I obviously have not listened to the entire disk, but I have checked all the of the folders for being listed and the song files within each folder. Not sure which end of the the DVD writing process (beginning or end) is the hardest on the recording and subsequent reading in a different drive, but I have listened to the first and last albums as listed. Both played just fine.
2) Now able to check out DL DVD as described two posts previous. As best I can tell it works. With nearly 100 hours of music on the DVD I obviously have not listened to the entire disk, but I have checked all the of the folders for being listed and the song files within each folder. Not sure which end of the the DVD writing process (beginning or end) is the hardest on the recording and subsequent reading in a different drive, but I have listened to the first and last albums as listed. Both played just fine.
05-06-2006, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by MrTrilby' post='274293' date='Apr 26 2006, 02:28 PM
I dumped as many MP3s as I could fit onto a DVD-R.
They're organised in to folders Artist->Album->Tracks.
On the DVD, I have folders running from (A)bba down to (W)et wet wet (ok, so not really those artists, but I couldn't think of a band beginning Z).
On the i-Drive display, it only lists folders down as far as M, and then it just stops.
I counted (on my PC) how many files are in the folders from A down to M. It's 218.
Regardless of the exact number of files you get to play, no matter what I do, i-Drive won't display folders on my disc from M down to Z.
They're organised in to folders Artist->Album->Tracks.
On the DVD, I have folders running from (A)bba down to (W)et wet wet (ok, so not really those artists, but I couldn't think of a band beginning Z).
On the i-Drive display, it only lists folders down as far as M, and then it just stops.
I counted (on my PC) how many files are in the folders from A down to M. It's 218.
Regardless of the exact number of files you get to play, no matter what I do, i-Drive won't display folders on my disc from M down to Z.
I have Business Navigation as well ( on Nov 2003 e60) and I have the same file limitation as Mr Trilby.
I have used ITunes to burn onto DVD-R and done a straight file copy using Roxio. The limitation exists with both methods of writing to DVD.
Its damn annoying that I cant find a way around this.
I can get around 16-18 albums accessible from the DVD obviously depending on songs per album.
I dont know which CIP version my car is as I only bought it in January.
Any other ideas ????
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Originally Posted by rohitlad' post='278807' date='May 6 2006, 03:49 PM
Just catching up on this thread,
I have Business Navigation as well ( on Nov 2003 e60) and I have the same file limitation as Mr Trilby.
I have used ITunes to burn onto DVD-R and done a straight file copy using Roxio. The limitation exists with both methods of writing to DVD.
Its damn annoying that I cant find a way around this.
I can get around 16-18 albums accessible from the DVD obviously depending on songs per album.
I dont know which CIP version my car is as I only bought it in January.
Any other ideas ????
I have Business Navigation as well ( on Nov 2003 e60) and I have the same file limitation as Mr Trilby.
I have used ITunes to burn onto DVD-R and done a straight file copy using Roxio. The limitation exists with both methods of writing to DVD.
Its damn annoying that I cant find a way around this.
I can get around 16-18 albums accessible from the DVD obviously depending on songs per album.
I dont know which CIP version my car is as I only bought it in January.
Any other ideas ????
and burnt both the navigation ISO file and the MP3 files on to this DL DVD and tried to play it from the navigation drive ( hoping that both MP3 and Navigation would work ).But it played only the MP3 and when i went to Navigation menu, it said Please insert Navigation DVD.
I know it might sound foolish but does anybody have any technical justification as to why this is not possible ( using both navigation feature and playing MP3 from a DL DVD).
Other thing I had tried was by burning the navigation ISO file on a regular DVD and it worked.So I know that ISO file is good.
Any thoughts.