How many Sport package 5's do you see on road?
04-20-2009, 06:52 AM
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Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='852567' date='Apr 20 2009, 07:25 AM
You've driven an E60 without SP ? Believe me, it's no mushy Lexus garbage. It puts sport packages on other cars to shame.
04-20-2009, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by corgidog' post='852621' date='Apr 20 2009, 09:31 AM
Maybe 1 in 10 are sport pkgs in NJ. I keep commenting to my wife when we see an E 60 that it has the cheap looking chrome (in our eyes) on it.
04-20-2009, 07:14 AM
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I rarely see Sport Pack's. In fact, I rarely see 545s, 550s or M5's. It's the climate...the majority here in MN drives xi's.
04-20-2009, 07:18 AM
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+1 ... yeah here too the same thing ...
Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='852720' date='Apr 20 2009, 10:14 AM
I rarely see Sport Pack's. In fact I rarely see 545s 550s or M5's. It's the climate, the majority here in MN drives xi's.
04-20-2009, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by ObD' post='852681' date='Apr 20 2009, 07:41 AM
Any non-ARS BMW equipped with SP vs Non SP rides better, for example, the 3-series. I disagree that ARS is the prime component.
04-20-2009, 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='852604' date='Apr 20 2009, 08:06 AM
You do realize that your car is non-sport, right? The XI has a standard suspension. The sport pack on the XI is entirely cosmetic.
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Originally Posted by Brit_in_NJ' post='852714' date='Apr 20 2009, 11:08 AM
Oh I still have the cheap chrome....
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='852739' date='Apr 20 2009, 10:31 AM
Of course ARS is the main factor - the active anti-roll bars are the only suspension difference between a non-sport and Sport E60 in the US (M-Sport package aside, which has different springs, and 04 and 05 cars where sport also had active steering). Your car and DD 545's are identical in that regard - you both have ARS...
In the US 5 AND 7 series RWD vehicle sport packages DO in fact have a different suspension setup than their non-sport counterparts (part numbers are different). The sport package (in addition to ARS .. which was std. in ALL 2002-2008 7-series vehicle variants) had slightly stiffer springs and thicker rear sway bars (i.e. sport suspension) than their non-sport versions. The idea was to make the car ride "firm" and improve "feel" WITHOUT making it "harsh" as comfort is high on the priority list of the demographic that shop this car. However, due to size of these vehicles it was not possible to control ROLL without a much stiffer suspensions setup (which was not an option for reason stated).
ENTER ARS. ARS works w IN CONJUNCTION with the SPORT SUSPENSION minimizing ROLL ensuring the overall ride is both smooth AND firm at the same time. The suspension ALSO works in minimizing (i.e. damping) rapid changes to the chassis during transitions in effect AIDING the ARS system (which the ARS in itself can't prevent). This is why ARS WITH THE SPORT SUSPENSION is the combination of choice for BMW. Even the 7-series folks comment that though ARS is available in the non-sport model .. it's effectiveness is much more prevalent in the sport model (due the optional suspension setup).