Help with Spacer Sizing for 09 535XI
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First, I have searched. I have seen the threads and sites on how to measure offset...but I still have a question about what size spacers would fit my situation.
Vehicle is a 2009 535i with X-Drive (aka 535xi). It does have the Sport package, but I believe that doesn't impact suspension...only rims/tires on the X-Drive model. Correct?
Rims are the 18" style 124 (staggered I believe). Tires are Bridgestone 275/35R18 (rear) and 245/40R18 (front).
I'm looking for a more aggressive stance, and I believe that wheel spacers might help me get the look I am after. The rear tires, in particular, seem very in-set at the moment.
I read the instructions on how to measure for the right spacers, but I'm not seeing results that make it easy.
Rear wheel: If I measure the distance from the inside fender to the rim I get around 15mm. However, if I measure to the widest part of the tire, I get only about 5mm. If I measure to the outer edge of the tire (near the tread) I am back to around 15mm. So, I essentially have about 10mm of tire bulge at the center of the side wall (not sure what to call it).
I want to say the 15mm is the right spacer size for this application...but it just didn't come together as easily as the tutorials that state to measure to the "widest part of the tire or the rim". In my case, there is a big difference between those two measurements.
The front tire is the same situation.
So...I'm thinking of a 15mm rear and 10mm front spacer set.
Does anyone have a similar setup on the 535xi (2008-2009) with sport package that can confirm that I won't have rubbing issues? Any photos of this?
Or...if you don't have that setup, do you have any advice on my situation?
I do realize I could go all out and use the stud/washer fitment test...but I was hoping to avoid that. It still might be the best option if there are no clear answers that emerge.
Thanks for the time.
Vehicle is a 2009 535i with X-Drive (aka 535xi). It does have the Sport package, but I believe that doesn't impact suspension...only rims/tires on the X-Drive model. Correct?
Rims are the 18" style 124 (staggered I believe). Tires are Bridgestone 275/35R18 (rear) and 245/40R18 (front).
I'm looking for a more aggressive stance, and I believe that wheel spacers might help me get the look I am after. The rear tires, in particular, seem very in-set at the moment.
I read the instructions on how to measure for the right spacers, but I'm not seeing results that make it easy.
Rear wheel: If I measure the distance from the inside fender to the rim I get around 15mm. However, if I measure to the widest part of the tire, I get only about 5mm. If I measure to the outer edge of the tire (near the tread) I am back to around 15mm. So, I essentially have about 10mm of tire bulge at the center of the side wall (not sure what to call it).
I want to say the 15mm is the right spacer size for this application...but it just didn't come together as easily as the tutorials that state to measure to the "widest part of the tire or the rim". In my case, there is a big difference between those two measurements.
The front tire is the same situation.
So...I'm thinking of a 15mm rear and 10mm front spacer set.
Does anyone have a similar setup on the 535xi (2008-2009) with sport package that can confirm that I won't have rubbing issues? Any photos of this?
Or...if you don't have that setup, do you have any advice on my situation?
I do realize I could go all out and use the stud/washer fitment test...but I was hoping to avoid that. It still might be the best option if there are no clear answers that emerge.
Thanks for the time.
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Sorry...This probably should have gone in E60 Parts, Accessories and Mods section. Moderators - feel free to move if necessary. I made the post off my last string of search results...and didn't realize I wasn't in the right section any longer.
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The best person to say what size spacers would be the best option, is you.
Think it this way: If you push the wheel+tyre 15mm more out with a spacer, will the tyre rub the edge of the fender when that corner of the car is being heavily pushed down. If it does rub, the spacer is too thick. Simple as that.
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Think it this way: If you push the wheel+tyre 15mm more out with a spacer, will the tyre rub the edge of the fender when that corner of the car is being heavily pushed down. If it does rub, the spacer is too thick. Simple as that.
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Update for those that may have this same question and find this topic via search:
I just today put on the spacers. 15mm in rear and 10mm in front. Not a single issue. Looks good, no rubbing at all (so far). My opinion...not sure if I would want to ever go bigger in the front. In the rear, there may be a little more room to go bigger...perhaps 18mm or 20mm. I'm sticking with the 15's though...I don't want to push my luck.
Tip: After cleaning the hub area with brake cleaner and a wire brush to knock off the crud...put some anti-seize around the hub ring. Then (and this is the tip) to properly align the spacer and to ease it on evenly, use the factory lug bolts. Just put a few in on opposite sides and tighten them a little at a time going around until the spacer is snug. The holes will be lined up, and you will be sure the spacer is firmly seated against the hub. Then pull the bolts, and put the tire on with the new longer bolts.
It was a VERY EASY job. I'll take pictures tomorrow. It's just turning dark outside now.
I just today put on the spacers. 15mm in rear and 10mm in front. Not a single issue. Looks good, no rubbing at all (so far). My opinion...not sure if I would want to ever go bigger in the front. In the rear, there may be a little more room to go bigger...perhaps 18mm or 20mm. I'm sticking with the 15's though...I don't want to push my luck.
Tip: After cleaning the hub area with brake cleaner and a wire brush to knock off the crud...put some anti-seize around the hub ring. Then (and this is the tip) to properly align the spacer and to ease it on evenly, use the factory lug bolts. Just put a few in on opposite sides and tighten them a little at a time going around until the spacer is snug. The holes will be lined up, and you will be sure the spacer is firmly seated against the hub. Then pull the bolts, and put the tire on with the new longer bolts.
It was a VERY EASY job. I'll take pictures tomorrow. It's just turning dark outside now.
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All great questions, I am facing the same right now after upgrading my E61 to 19" wheels (style 128)!
I am curious how you tested for rubbing: did you throw a bunch of heavy junk in a trunk and drove around over road humps?
I am not sure if I can test it this way on the rear since I have a self-leveling rear suspension and not sure how fast the air-spring rate is adjusted when rear tires hit the bump. Maybe I am over thinking it.
At least my case is simpler in a way that my tire sidewall is almost flash with the rim, so it is easier to measure.
But looking at other's setups on this board with same car and wheels having 12mm spacers on front, I can only measure 7-8mm of fender space there.
Maybe this +4mm difference accounts for suspension travel when the wheel tucks in to fender well and tilts?
This can not be measured on a static car, so this must be a trial and error exercise then, correct?
I am curious how you tested for rubbing: did you throw a bunch of heavy junk in a trunk and drove around over road humps?
I am not sure if I can test it this way on the rear since I have a self-leveling rear suspension and not sure how fast the air-spring rate is adjusted when rear tires hit the bump. Maybe I am over thinking it.
At least my case is simpler in a way that my tire sidewall is almost flash with the rim, so it is easier to measure.
But looking at other's setups on this board with same car and wheels having 12mm spacers on front, I can only measure 7-8mm of fender space there.
Maybe this +4mm difference accounts for suspension travel when the wheel tucks in to fender well and tilts?
This can not be measured on a static car, so this must be a trial and error exercise then, correct?
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