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Old 11-07-2005, 05:38 AM
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Originally Posted by FJPM' post='194180
Hi FJPM,

Staying close to the CDG airport. Is there any riot related disturbences in that area ? Can you let me know which are the areas to absolutely avoid in Paris as regards general hazards and the present disturbences ?

Thanks ! Roland
First these riots must be considered similar to the ones which hit L.A. some years ago.
The CDG area it self has not been touched but the whole North and East suburbs of Paris are difficult for the time being at night. Which includes the zone between Paris and CDGEven if it is very serious, it is very scatered. Paris downtown is OK.
If your hotel is an high class one and having an indoor parking it is OK.
The problem is how to commute to go to Paris downtown for visiting. Because the RER (suburban train network) is severly perturbated for the time being. I will not recommend to take it at night going north.

My advice: yes you can come to Paris but take a good hotel downtown with a private parking or a good hotel located in Western suburbs it will be by far more convenient for visiting.

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You don't have any risk with a BMW here. The rioters are very careful with BMWs in the suburb because they all have one ! Just kidding... Just avoid the inner city areas, that's it. No problem downtown. Enjoy your trip.
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Originally Posted by RolandKelly' post='193630' date='Nov 4 2005, 05:27 PM
Hello Guys,

Thought I'd check in before leaving for Germany on Wednesday next. I am doing my 4th ED in 6 years and was wondering, as I have not done it since May 2003, if there are any new tips for a smooth delivery.

From earlier trips I now know to

1) purchase and install keyed locking wheel nuts
2) buy as many accessories I can fit into a suitcase from the large dealership parts dept on the Frankfurter Ring
3) park the car in hotel and supervised parking lots
4) keep all the keys on my person as absence of keys can invalidate the insurance policy for theft
5) bring my newly purchased Euro NAV DVD
6) bring lots of Euro for buying gas and everything else that is soo expensive in Europe (except the crusty french bread, creamy cheese and fine French wines..anyone jealous yet..just kidding)
6) take ALL accessories including tools/first aid kit/hazard triangle back with me in the suitcase , as these may not all reappear in the USA

Any other advice ?

My wife and I are flying into Frankfurt (AA does not do Munich this time of year), then next day take the high speed train to Munchen. Spend 4 nights at the Marriott (points) then drive across Germany and into France , planning to stay at a winery in the Mosel region (found on a review on the Wall St J, very good rates..then arriving in a Paris suburb for 4 more nights, back to USA 11/21).

Will report back on the whole experience >)

Cheers, Roland

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PS. Kids will stay at home with Grandma and Grandpa....boy will we miss them ! LOL
More bad news coming from France, becarefull.

I agree with others, use your credit card as much as possible to get best exchange rates and use ATM inside of reputable places only (card readers are popular in Europe).

CONGRAT!

good choice on the Tranny
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Don't go to Paris! They have burned 1200 cars there in the last few days!

Even if they didn't burn the cars in Paris I wouldn't bring my brand new BMW into the city of Paris, they drive like hell, and park the cars, like they are insane!
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Originally Posted by E60Sim' post='194613' date='Nov 7 2005, 04:10 PM
Don't go to Paris! They have burned 1200 cars there in the last few days!

Even if they didn't burn the cars in Paris I wouldn't bring my brand new BMW into the city of Paris, they drive like hell, and park the cars, like they are insane!
Come on ! That's not the war.. Just avoid inner city areas over night... and they don't burn BMWs, they love it
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How long to get car from Europe to US Dealer after dropoff?

Do some dropoff locations provided faster re-delivery than others?

Regards,

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Ls78000, It's not a war - but the areas where there these demontrations are, is not a place to be in a brand new car...

and they don't burn BMWs, they love it - I think BMW is on the top 10 list of the cars they wanna burn
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Originally Posted by E60Sim' post='194625' date='Nov 7 2005, 04:47 PM
Ls78000, It's not a war - but the areas where there these demontrations are, is not a place to be in a brand new car...
Agree but believe me (I live in Paris) the riots are located in the inner-city areas of the major cities in France. So avoiding these places (where there is nothing to do even when it's quiet) should be ok. I still have my E60 And they burn all cars regardless the brand...
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Originally Posted by E60Sim' post='194625' date='Nov 7 2005, 11:47 PM
and they don't burn BMWs, they love it - I think BMW is on the top 10 list of the cars they wanna burn
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I confirm what IS78000 said: the riot affects at night mostly difficuly areas located Northen and Southern of Paris.

For convenience only, I would drop off the car ASAP in CDG which is very easily connected by highways comming from the East and saty in an Hotel downtown. It is not a good idea to stay close to CDG and to commute by train to Paris. RER line B is crossing some bandit districts...

On top yhe number of car burned is quite high because of propagation in parking lots. On top we cannot exclude some cheating to the insurance.

What surpised me is that they are burning very popular cars of people not being able to afford a private covered parking -> most likely the car of their parents, friend or relatives...
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Originally Posted by RolandKelly' post='193630' date='Nov 4 2005, 06:27 PM
Hello Guys,

Thought I'd check in before leaving for Germany on Wednesday next. I am doing my 4th ED in 6 years and was wondering, as I have not done it since May 2003, if there are any new tips for a smooth delivery.

From earlier trips I now know to

1) purchase and install keyed locking wheel nuts
2) buy as many accessories I can fit into a suitcase from the large dealership parts dept on the Frankfurter Ring
3) park the car in hotel and supervised parking lots
4) keep all the keys on my person as absence of keys can invalidate the insurance policy for theft
5) bring my newly purchased Euro NAV DVD
6) bring lots of Euro for buying gas and everything else that is soo expensive in Europe (except the crusty french bread, creamy cheese and fine French wines..anyone jealous yet..just kidding)
6) take ALL accessories including tools/first aid kit/hazard triangle back with me in the suitcase , as these may not all reappear in the USA

Any other advice ?

My wife and I are flying into Frankfurt (AA does not do Munich this time of year), then next day take the high speed train to Munchen. Spend 4 nights at the Marriott (points) then drive across Germany and into France , planning to stay at a winery in the Mosel region (found on a review on the Wall St J, very good rates..then arriving in a Paris suburb for 4 more nights, back to USA 11/21).

Will report back on the whole experience >)

Cheers, Roland

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6 Speed Manual/PDC/Folding Rear Seats/Prem Sound/Sport Package/Cold Weather Package/Heated Rear Seats/Comfort Seats/NAV/ Full Satelite Radio (will this work in Europe ??)

PS. Kids will stay at home with Grandma and Grandpa....boy will we miss them ! LOL
Roland,

I have some questions on ED. I am planning on going on May 8 right now. From chicago I can fly direct to Germany. You mentioned a high speed train. How conveinient is it and how expensive. How long does it take on the train to Munich?

I plan on doing ED as quickly as possible and return the car and fly home.

I want to fly outof chicago on a saturday and fly out of Munich late Monday, early tuesday.

How long did it take you to get your car once you handed it back to Europe?

Thanks,

Bill


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