Does debadging "downsize" you car ?
03-17-2007, 10:30 PM
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I debadged my 545 and like realtyman I think the exhaust gives it away....but oh well....I love the clean look.
Just for fun, I actually put a 525i badge on last year for 2 months for fun....result was cool. I get E320s trying to piss me off and you know what the results are like...
Just for fun, I actually put a 525i badge on last year for 2 months for fun....result was cool. I get E320s trying to piss me off and you know what the results are like...
03-18-2007, 01:43 AM
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Originally Posted by diveleader' post='404013' date='Mar 17 2007, 11:16 PM
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The 535d is however fully badged up and kind of has the opposite effect. You can doubley p**s other drivers off by first whooping them and then letting them know it was done in a diesel!
cant they tell its a diesel by all the black soot coming out of your pipes, as you shoot past
(only kidding!)
The 535d is however fully badged up and kind of has the opposite effect. You can doubley p**s other drivers off by first whooping them and then letting them know it was done in a diesel!
cant they tell its a diesel by all the black soot coming out of your pipes, as you shoot past
(only kidding!)
03-18-2007, 01:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Aeroresh' post='404165' date='Mar 18 2007, 09:43 AM
Make that trippley p**s other drivers off then!
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03-18-2007, 02:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Ray Hull' post='404057' date='Mar 18 2007, 01:46 AM
There was only ONE legitimate reason to debadge, and that was >30 years ago in Europe when state taxes were levied based on engine size. Now that everybody knows what's under the hood, just by the VIN, nobody gets away paying 4 cyl taxes on their V-12. Not to mention the size of rear brake rotors and other non-styling, genuine performance cues.
a) In the majority of European countries some car-related taxes are still levied based on engine size (and/or power and/or consumption). In fact the UK used to have a flat annual excise duty on cars until a few years ago, but now has 11 bands depending on fuel type and CO2 emissions. Plus fuel duties/VAT and sales tax/VAT on new cars - which represent the majority of car taxation - are inescapably linked to engine size.
b) Since all cars in Europe have a compulsory registration mark/document (number plate), and obtaining that depends on presenting documentation by the manufacturer including which engine is fitted, it never was possible for anyone to pay lower rates of tax simply by turning up at the tax office and "declaring" a lower engine size. Once you are in the system, you stay in.
c) Even if people were ever debadging for the reason you mention, that's not "legitimate". That's tax evasion, which is hardly legal (or even ethically "legitimate" under most circumstances - ya gotta pay to play in more than one way)
So, de-badging a car never has had a "technical" purpose...
03-18-2007, 03:14 AM
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Originally Posted by diveleader' post='404013' date='Mar 17 2007, 11:16 PM
Aero
The 535d is however fully badged up and kind of has the opposite effect. You can doubley p**s other drivers off by first whooping them and then letting them know it was done in a diesel!
cant they tell its a diesel by all the black soot coming out of your pipes, as you shoot past
(only kidding!)
The 535d is however fully badged up and kind of has the opposite effect. You can doubley p**s other drivers off by first whooping them and then letting them know it was done in a diesel!
cant they tell its a diesel by all the black soot coming out of your pipes, as you shoot past
(only kidding!)
Hence the decent tailpipes now that are not the skinny twin down turned affairs of old.That's was a real bonus to me as I still think it looks a bit naff to have a nice executive vehicle smoking like an old taxi or truck. :thumbsdown: My last diesel Audi A6 looked really smart until you floored the throttle and hid all oncoming traffic under a smoke screen.
I was even sad enough to get on my hands and knees to give my exhaust a sniff with the engine running and the emissions were so clean that I didn't smell a thing even any sulphur from the catalyst that you often get. Wouldn't recommend doing it for too long though as I'm sure the invisible, colourless variety of gases are probably the most harmful.
03-18-2007, 03:20 AM
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Originally Posted by dawi' post='404187' date='Mar 18 2007, 11:14 AM
Think you'll find that all E60 diesels now come with particulate (soot) filters so you don't get any visible emissions at all - just like petrol/gas.
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=38059
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03-18-2007, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by nwilliams' post='403585' date='Mar 16 2007, 01:38 PM
Well..the truth is...I wish I had a 550i !!!!
I have the M-Sport pack with the M-body kit, M-suspension, M-door sills, M Steering wheel, High gloss shadow line, anthracite roof liner and 19" 172M wheels.....all that on a carbon black car. Most of the time when I pull up next to another car, guys look at me like wow! that's a serious ride....right away they think it's a super fast, powerful sport sedan not realizing their G35/Lexus IS or the likes will pretty much smoke my car...all that because of the way it looks...(like a 550 or M5 to someone who doesn't know).
And that's starting to get to me!! The moment they see my badge (530i) they take the attitude of "hey...it's only a 530...I can smoke him...it just looks like a 550!" As a result I seem to be "challenged" more often than I care.
Admittedly, I have an inferiority complex with my car !! And probably come across like a moron for that! but hey...I'm telling it like it is !!
My thought was to debadge in order to take away the whole "it's only a 530i" reaction and let people draw their own conclusions.....It feels like the M-Sport pack and the 19" wheels convey the wrong idea...power...muscle...extreme acceleration...when that's just not the case! It's only cosmetic !
I'm glad I got this off my chest.....lol...very therapeutic....lol....
I have the M-Sport pack with the M-body kit, M-suspension, M-door sills, M Steering wheel, High gloss shadow line, anthracite roof liner and 19" 172M wheels.....all that on a carbon black car. Most of the time when I pull up next to another car, guys look at me like wow! that's a serious ride....right away they think it's a super fast, powerful sport sedan not realizing their G35/Lexus IS or the likes will pretty much smoke my car...all that because of the way it looks...(like a 550 or M5 to someone who doesn't know).
And that's starting to get to me!! The moment they see my badge (530i) they take the attitude of "hey...it's only a 530...I can smoke him...it just looks like a 550!" As a result I seem to be "challenged" more often than I care.
Admittedly, I have an inferiority complex with my car !! And probably come across like a moron for that! but hey...I'm telling it like it is !!
My thought was to debadge in order to take away the whole "it's only a 530i" reaction and let people draw their own conclusions.....It feels like the M-Sport pack and the 19" wheels convey the wrong idea...power...muscle...extreme acceleration...when that's just not the case! It's only cosmetic !
I'm glad I got this off my chest.....lol...very therapeutic....lol....
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Originally Posted by Fatlab' post='403661' date='Mar 16 2007, 10:07 PM
I saw one better than that a few months ago in the UK. It was a new '56 plate M5 with a 518i badge on the back trundling down the outside lane of the motorway just waiting for some oik who didn't know his arse from his elbow to flash him to get out of the way .....
Now that is someone with a sense of humour.
Fatlab
Now that is someone with a sense of humour.
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Sure some astra diesel would take up the challenge
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Evening Chaps.
My first post, so go easy on me! LOL
I bought a 535d Sport at the weekend and have de-badged it. Didn't see the need to have the badge on the boot and it's balanced the look of the rear up nicely. This is the first car that I've ever de-badged. I've had and E39 M5, E46 M3 and numerous 330d's, but I've not felt the desire to remove the badge until now.
Is it a 535d thing?
Matt
My first post, so go easy on me! LOL
I bought a 535d Sport at the weekend and have de-badged it. Didn't see the need to have the badge on the boot and it's balanced the look of the rear up nicely. This is the first car that I've ever de-badged. I've had and E39 M5, E46 M3 and numerous 330d's, but I've not felt the desire to remove the badge until now.
Is it a 535d thing?
Matt