Cruise control with a manual transmission
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Guys - it's a cool feature, not a defect. How are you slowing anyway for traffic with the cruise control on without touching the brake? If you're pushing in the clutch to disengage the engine and coast slower, you're doing it wrong, so stop driving that way (you shouldn't be coasting out of gear - I believe it's unsafe and actually against the law in certain mountainous states/areas). If you want to coast, brush the brakes first (or disengage cruise control from the stalk), and leave it in gear to coast down. If you've got active cruise, as I do, of course slowing is automatic and safe distance is maintained upon a resume anyway.
As it is this function allows you to accelerate on a resume while shifting up through the gears, which is very cool, and yes, unique to any car I've ever had.
As it is this function allows you to accelerate on a resume while shifting up through the gears, which is very cool, and yes, unique to any car I've ever had.
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Ok - I am 99% sure mine disengages the CC when "dapping" the clutch pedal. I am currently on vacation away from my car, but when I return I will verify to be sure.
Anybody knows which module controls CC? I want to start looking for coding options...
Anybody knows which module controls CC? I want to start looking for coding options...
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My transmission will intially NOT disengage upon pressing in the clutch.
On the first few occasions, when I was learning the features of the car, when I would press and hold in the clutch, the revs would almost redline and THEN cruise would be disengaged. It is a bit startling when you aren't expecting it.
I've tried once or twice to downshift while on cruise, (like to pass), and it does NOT disengage.
So it would appear that the cruise is linked to the rev limiter and not the actual clutch movement.
Nevertheless, I only set cruise when I am on a long trip on a major highway, or actively trying to maintain speed on a patrolled road. If I need to slow down or speed up while on cruise I use the stalk in 1 or 5 mph increments, or the brakes, obviously, when needed. I disengage via the stalk when I want to get out of cruise completely.
On the first few occasions, when I was learning the features of the car, when I would press and hold in the clutch, the revs would almost redline and THEN cruise would be disengaged. It is a bit startling when you aren't expecting it.
I've tried once or twice to downshift while on cruise, (like to pass), and it does NOT disengage.
So it would appear that the cruise is linked to the rev limiter and not the actual clutch movement.
Nevertheless, I only set cruise when I am on a long trip on a major highway, or actively trying to maintain speed on a patrolled road. If I need to slow down or speed up while on cruise I use the stalk in 1 or 5 mph increments, or the brakes, obviously, when needed. I disengage via the stalk when I want to get out of cruise completely.
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There is absolutely NOTHING wrong with coasting in neutral with a manual transmission. The only potential unsafe situation is when you are either towing or going down a steep grade - and in either case it would be your brakes that save you, not the drivetrain.
The only disadvantage to "coasting in neutral" would be accelerated wear on the clutch and brakepads, and that is completely subject to how the car is driven. If I had to choose, I'd rather fix worn pads or a worn clutch over a worn transmission all day/any day.
The only disadvantage to "coasting in neutral" would be accelerated wear on the clutch and brakepads, and that is completely subject to how the car is driven. If I had to choose, I'd rather fix worn pads or a worn clutch over a worn transmission all day/any day.
It's quite obvious that BMW didn't design its cruise control feature to encourage neutral or clutch-in coast downs (to do what the OP is doing). They designed it assuming that the driver would manually disengage CC via the brake pedal or the stalk. That's not a defect or a problem, it's a design choice, and my opinion they made the right one... please don't complain about this so that they change it on future models, because I like it!
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They designed it assuming that the driver would manually disengage CC via the brake pedal or the stalk. That's not a defect or a problem, it's a design choice, and my opinion they made the right one... please don't complain about this so that they change it on future models, because I like it!
I started the thread to see if it was a setting somewhere, whether through iDrive or coding.
The cruise works amazingly well and honestly I wouldn't change it to disengage with clutch initiation even if I could.
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Mine is the same, depressing the clutch in my manual E61 while on cruise, does 'not' disengage cruise. My car is a European model (UK). It's probably a software coding thing - maybe and older version of the software (my car is 2008).
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