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Old 09-18-2008, 10:17 AM
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Wow I just found out a new trick today (new to me), how to have the car running without the key inserted. First get in your car, insert the key and turn on the car, then turn off the car and take the key out, then press your brake (without the key inserted) and press start, and boom, the car would start and stay running without the key inserted, pretty cool trick I say.
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But is it worth a new starter motor?
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some other neat tricks can be found here..

http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=45685


including the OP's
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Originally Posted by GT Premi' post='672472' date='Sep 19 2008, 03:44 AM
But is it worth a new starter motor?
Not quite sure of the usefulness of this trick, but how would it be detrimental to the starter motor? It's not like you are over cranking your car on start or 'turning' the car over again while the engine is running?
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New Progman updates will get those tricks fixed.

Funny, though
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Originally Posted by GT Premi' post='672472' date='Sep 18 2008, 08:44 PM
But is it worth a new starter motor?
This doesn't harm your starter motor. It's just a trick to allow you to drive the car without the key inserted.

I use it in situations like: When I want to let my car running when it's very cold and I go to a shop for a couple of minutes. The good thing is that you can just lock your car while it's running.
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this would be very useful for those in cold climates that like to warm there car in the morning before driving and don't want to leave the key in. Too bad I don't have push start.
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Originally Posted by timewa' post='672596' date='Sep 18 2008, 04:48 PM
This doesn't harm your starter motor. It's just a trick to allow you to drive the car without the key inserted.

I use it in situations like: When I want to let my car running when it's very cold and I go to a shop for a couple of minutes. The good thing is that you can just lock your car while it's running.
My concern with the starter motor is with the regular double starts in short succession.

I suppose that's a neat little trick. I tested that idea with a previous car of mine. I left the engine running (at home), got out of the car, locked the doors with the switch, and closed the door. I tried to unlock the doors with the fob and they wouldn't unlock. Had to use the second key. Whew! Imagine if I'd tried that while out somewhere!
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Originally Posted by GT Premi' post='673081' date='Sep 19 2008, 01:34 PM
My concern with the starter motor is with the regular double starts in short succession.

I suppose that's a neat little trick. I tested that idea with a previous car of mine. I left the engine running (at home), got out of the car, locked the doors with the switch, and closed the door. I tried to unlock the doors with the fob and they wouldn't unlock. Had to use the second key. Whew! Imagine if I'd tried that while out somewhere!
i tested this trick today in the following manner:

put the ignition key in the slot
press the start engine button without pressing the brake pedal so the electronics turn on but not the engine.
take the key out
press the brake pedal and press the start engine button - the engine starts with no key

that way, we save on starte motors

one issue though, if you stop the engine without the key in the ignition, it doesnt save any of your settings on the key.

hope this helps, cheers.
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