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Old 09-26-2005, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by buddy' date='Sep 27 2005, 02:52 AM
a chirp or even an actual burn out is no problem out of first gear with all system turned off, its the second and third gear snatches that i dont understand why it wont do it.? I may be the clutch delay valve or even the longer throws of the gear spaceing.? This is not a really big deal but even in my fiat 131 super brava i could snatch second gear and it probably had 115 hp at the most.
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You can't compare Italian cars to German cars . Italian cars are much more fun to drive , which always results in a shorter lifetime of the vehicle and all its components. Usually the clutch on an Italian car is ultra aggressive (on/off feeling) compared to other countries.


Originally Posted by EBMCS03' date='Sep 27 2005, 07:18 AM
Well keep in mind... your fiat is a Front wheel drive? so when you are accelerating all the weight goes to the rear of the car which makes the front a lot lighter and hence no weight up there... Much easier to spin the wheels.

On the other hand... the E60 is a rear wheel drive with those nice wide 19" wheels (I assume they are wide since they are 19"s) and grippy Michilins its harder to chirp them. The weight during acceleration is all thrown to the rear all pushing down on those 19"s... makes it stick to the ground more.
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Fiat 131 is a rear wheel drive car .
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Originally Posted by Shebs' date='Sep 27 2005, 12:47 AM
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You can't compare Italian cars to German cars . Italian cars are much more fun to drive? , which always results in a shorter lifetime of the vehicle and all its components.
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And they already rust when you get them delivered new from the dealer...
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Well, the DSC is designed to prevent a certain amount of wheelspin so this isn't a big surprise. Mine will chirp in certain situations with all the electronics engaged, but will do it more when disengaged. Mine is the N52 engine though.
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Originally Posted by Shebs' date='Sep 26 2005, 11:47 PM
Fiat 131 is a rear wheel drive car? .
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Thats why I had a question mark... well in that case I blame it on the Wide a** 19" wheels + CDV.
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Well thanks guys i kinda figured it may be those sticky azz Michelins as well as that CDV oh well i guess ill have to wait till we get all the latest info on that chip upgrade that one of the other members is talking about.
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are you sure you switched of both systems, becasue you have to hold on to the dsc button for more then 3 secs to turn everything off. But you probably know this
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Originally Posted by Ralph-NL' date='Sep 28 2005, 07:08 AM
are you sure you switched of both systems, becasue you have to hold on to the dsc button for more then 3 secs to turn everything off. But you probably know this
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yeah i have done it both ways with traction off and then held it until both go off
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Couple of days ago,I hold the dsc button aprox 10 sec,I floored in SD mode,and at the gear change i heard tyre noises a diesel,a auto one!
PS: i have factory wheels style 122 ,17" with runflats
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Originally Posted by buddy' date='Sep 28 2005, 05:58 AM
Well thanks guys i kinda figured it may be those sticky azz Michelins as well as that CDV oh well i guess ill have to wait till we get all the latest info on that chip upgrade that one of the other members is talking about.
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Get the CDV removed now! $35... http://www.zeckhausen.com/CDV.htm Plus install... if you can do it yourself... then its just $35.
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