BMW E60 545 Vs BMW M3 Convertible E46
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Originally Posted by PrinceNaz' post='871253' date='May 7 2009, 08:40 PM
I agree that the M3 does have more BHP and the 0-60 is 0.2 secs faster. But wouldn't the 545 take it after that??
I selected SMG on both to make the comparison fairer.
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Originally Posted by miguex' post='871397' date='May 7 2009, 10:06 PM
I believe both cars weight in the 3700 lb category and M3 has about 10 more HP but at 8500rpm.
there are plenty threads about 545i/550i vs m3.... some of them:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=6263
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=69294
Both cars are great.
there are plenty threads about 545i/550i vs m3.... some of them:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=6263
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=69294
Both cars are great.
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Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='871407' date='May 7 2009, 05:11 PM
According to the figures in these links below, the E46 M3 SMG hits 60mph in 5.0 seconds and the E60 545i SMG takes 5.6 seconds.
I selected SMG on both to make the comparison fairer.
545i Specs E46 M3 Specs
I selected SMG on both to make the comparison fairer.
545i Specs E46 M3 Specs
There are reported runs of 4.79 0-60 with the 545i.
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I have both (M3's a coupe however) and both are 6 speed manuals and there's no doubt the M3 is faster. Takes more to get a 545i off the line..tough car to launch, the M3 is simple. No dout an M3 race.
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Originally Posted by E60714' post='871459' date='May 7 2009, 02:56 PM
Take out the floor mats and you'll be beating Veyrons.
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Originally Posted by sy1616' post='871466' date='May 7 2009, 02:59 PM
I have both (M3's a coupe however) and both are 6 speed manuals and there's no doubt the M3 is faster. Takes more to get a 545i off the line..tough car to launch, the M3 is simple. No dout an M3 race.
I feel my friend's stock s2000 so much faster than my 545i but is it? More stiffer setting, lower seat position,
louder exhaust & engine note, high revving engine etc from M3 will give you the feeling of faster than 545i.
But since I never raced an M3 yet, I'm gonna go by logic what I gathered from e60.net
We had a good amount of 545i vs 550i and we concluded that it's a driver's race.
According to the mags, 550i is capable of running 13.2s(motor trend I think).
Stock m3 coupe is capable of running 13.2s as well. So, if my logic isn't flawed, it will be a driver's race.
However, OP asked m3 convertible. From the magazine, it ran high 13s.
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I was neck to neck with an e46 M3 last time. This was before I had my Dinan ECU remap and RPI scoop and that's also when I had the infamous AFE intake.
EDIT: Just remembered. I had the DINAN but didnt remove the AFE and install the RPI scoop.
EDIT: Just remembered. I had the DINAN but didnt remove the AFE and install the RPI scoop.
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Originally Posted by uheenada' post='871572' date='May 8 2009, 12:33 AM
Are you go by how you feel while accelerating? Because what you feel can give you very wrong "feeling".
I feel my friend's stock s2000 so much faster than my 545i but is it? More stiffer setting, lower seat position,
louder exhaust & engine note, high revving engine etc from M3 will give you the feeling of faster than 545i.
But since I never raced an M3 yet, I'm gonna go by logic what I gathered from e60.net
We had a good amount of 545i vs 550i and we concluded that it's a driver's race.
According to the mags, 550i is capable of running 13.2s(motor trend I think).
Stock m3 coupe is capable of running 13.2s as well. So, if my logic isn't flawed, it will be a driver's race.
However, OP asked m3 convertible. From the magazine, it ran high 13s.
I feel my friend's stock s2000 so much faster than my 545i but is it? More stiffer setting, lower seat position,
louder exhaust & engine note, high revving engine etc from M3 will give you the feeling of faster than 545i.
But since I never raced an M3 yet, I'm gonna go by logic what I gathered from e60.net
We had a good amount of 545i vs 550i and we concluded that it's a driver's race.
According to the mags, 550i is capable of running 13.2s(motor trend I think).
Stock m3 coupe is capable of running 13.2s as well. So, if my logic isn't flawed, it will be a driver's race.
However, OP asked m3 convertible. From the magazine, it ran high 13s.
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Originally Posted by DD_545i' post='871407' date='May 7 2009, 11:11 PM
According to the figures in these links below, the E46 M3 SMG hits 60mph in 5.0 seconds and the E60 545i SMG takes 5.6 seconds.
I selected SMG on both to make the comparison fairer.
545i Specs E46 M3 Specs
I selected SMG on both to make the comparison fairer.
545i Specs E46 M3 Specs
No man, you are not considering a pair of points:
a) 6 MT /SMG has a LOW final drive ratio, so performance discrease
b) in the 0-60/0-100/0-whatyouwant, the SMG2 of the M3 has a real LC, not an acceleration assist as the SMG of the 545i.
c) Limited slip diff
About 0-100 (real, calculated with clips, frames and to 102 kmh of speedo), with old gears (stock gears, stock ratio in the diff), by best was 5.7s, so 5.5-5.6 in the 0.6 .
It's a LONG time that I don't try a LC, but now with 3.15 ratio and the Quaife I surely would obtain a better result.
Let me reinstall summer tires, get a new remap (gone after Progman update), etc. and I will try a LC again.
Edit: if it can help, I smoked an E46 M3 cabrio time ago (surely 6 MT).