Bent subframe vs worse?
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From: Oregon
Model Year: 2007
Engine: N52
Long story short, I found that my car at the very least has a tweaked front subframe.
Doing the front suspension parts, the driver's arms all came out as expected. The passenger side thrust arm was very firm inside of the mount tabs. I had to spread the mount ears apart with a bolt and nut to get the new thrust arm in, as it was 1mm too narrow. The control arm went in and out fine.
The passenger side had also been replaced by cheapass parts store parts - strut, thrust arm, sway bar link were Monroe/Moog/OESpectrum. I went ahead and replaced the spindle on this side as well. After everything, the car aligns out evenly but there is a ~1 degree caster difference, and the right wheel sits maybe 1.5cm back in the wheel well compared to the left. The car drives fine aside from a very slight drift to the right if the road is not perfectly flat that I did not even notice before I went after the front suspension. Nonetheless I don't like it being messed up like this and would like to remedy the problem after I fix a couple more nagging issues (clacky lifter/follower replacement & new AT servos).
Given that I found the thrust arm mount tab is tweaked, it seems that the impact was possibly from a curbing and the thrust arm was pulled and twisted straight backwards which is now making the whole strut assembly sit slightly wrong. There is no visible cracking, scrapes, etc on the subframe itself. The underbody panels are all still there, the headlight leveling sensor was present and undamaged, the headlight is still original, wheelhouse, etc etc.
My question: if I go through the trouble to drop the subframe to replace it with a good used one, is there any reason to expect to find the upper part of the unibody is tweaked where the subframe bolts through? I can't think of why there would be, given the impact seemed to originate "through" the suspension itself vs the body, but I am not familiar this chassis in that regard. I have read of others having to replace subframes after similar previous-moron incidents, like driving over large objects on the freeway. Just hoping for any caution or encouragement before I plan on the job.
Doing the front suspension parts, the driver's arms all came out as expected. The passenger side thrust arm was very firm inside of the mount tabs. I had to spread the mount ears apart with a bolt and nut to get the new thrust arm in, as it was 1mm too narrow. The control arm went in and out fine.
The passenger side had also been replaced by cheapass parts store parts - strut, thrust arm, sway bar link were Monroe/Moog/OESpectrum. I went ahead and replaced the spindle on this side as well. After everything, the car aligns out evenly but there is a ~1 degree caster difference, and the right wheel sits maybe 1.5cm back in the wheel well compared to the left. The car drives fine aside from a very slight drift to the right if the road is not perfectly flat that I did not even notice before I went after the front suspension. Nonetheless I don't like it being messed up like this and would like to remedy the problem after I fix a couple more nagging issues (clacky lifter/follower replacement & new AT servos).
Given that I found the thrust arm mount tab is tweaked, it seems that the impact was possibly from a curbing and the thrust arm was pulled and twisted straight backwards which is now making the whole strut assembly sit slightly wrong. There is no visible cracking, scrapes, etc on the subframe itself. The underbody panels are all still there, the headlight leveling sensor was present and undamaged, the headlight is still original, wheelhouse, etc etc.
My question: if I go through the trouble to drop the subframe to replace it with a good used one, is there any reason to expect to find the upper part of the unibody is tweaked where the subframe bolts through? I can't think of why there would be, given the impact seemed to originate "through" the suspension itself vs the body, but I am not familiar this chassis in that regard. I have read of others having to replace subframes after similar previous-moron incidents, like driving over large objects on the freeway. Just hoping for any caution or encouragement before I plan on the job.
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