545i Vs 535d
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='262961' date='Mar 31 2006, 08:42 AM
Znod - I think you need to drop the modcar figures. Unfortunately, it seems they are theoretical not measured.
The data comes from here:
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/default.asp
It's calculated based on weight, power and drivetrain - interesting, but not accurate enough.
The data comes from here:
http://www.letstorquebhp.com/default.asp
It's calculated based on weight, power and drivetrain - interesting, but not accurate enough.
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='262967' date='Mar 31 2006, 08:58 AM
This site might be interesting:
www.fastsaloons.com
They have the 0-100 for the 535d as 15secs, the mean of this and the 3 german mag figures is 15.45secs.
Quarter mile is given as 14.5 secs.
www.fastsaloons.com
They have the 0-100 for the 535d as 15secs, the mean of this and the 3 german mag figures is 15.45secs.
Quarter mile is given as 14.5 secs.
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Check out the compare and race bit - s'good fun - 545i beats 535d !
and just to wind up 700700 and bettermakeway try racing the 745li against the 535d (535d wins by 0.3 secs
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Originally Posted by needforspeed' post='263007' date='Mar 31 2006, 10:31 AM
At the bottom of this page:
http://www.modcar.org/pages/BMW
It says this:
Please note these are thoery figures only and may differ from manufactures quoted statistics. Copyright http://www.letstorquebhp.com
They don't quote a source but it seems pretty detailed stuff. There are contact emails there for the editors etc so you could ask directly?
Check out the compare and race bit - s'good fun - 545i beats 535d !
and just to wind up 700700 and bettermakeway try racing the 745li against the 535d (535d wins by 0.3 secs
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http://www.modcar.org/pages/BMW
It says this:
Please note these are thoery figures only and may differ from manufactures quoted statistics. Copyright http://www.letstorquebhp.com
They don't quote a source but it seems pretty detailed stuff. There are contact emails there for the editors etc so you could ask directly?
Check out the compare and race bit - s'good fun - 545i beats 535d !
and just to wind up 700700 and bettermakeway try racing the 745li against the 535d (535d wins by 0.3 secs
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Here is everything I know at this point about 0 to 100 MPH and 1/4 times and speeds for the two cars.
All Steptronics:
{...............................................54 5i*......................................}{....... ........535d*...........................}
..............MT........RT............MT......GM.. ...grogan545#....Znod#..{................GM's..... ..........Clived^..}
...........Aug-04...Jun-05...Oct-05
0-X.......13.70...13.70......13.80.................. 13.434.......13.467............................... ............14.174
0-100*.13.60...12.70....13.60....14.9............... ............12.004.........15.1.....16.4.....15.3
X = 102.1, 104, and 102.8, 104.8, 104.9, and 98.06 respectively.
GM = German Magazine.
*Please keep the natural bias in favor of the 535d in the above values in mind. The US mag times are for 0 - 100 MPH. The German mag times are for 0 - 99.42 MPH. In this regard, it takes my car more than .1 second to move from 99.42 MPH to 100 MPH. Thus, each of the 535d times should be increased by more than .1 second--perhaps as much as .15 second.
^Clived's results were obtained at Santa Pod Raceway in the UK (Wellingborough, Northhamptonshire) (see above for his complete results). Making an educated quess, using web data, I think that Santa Pod is likely to be about 250' above sea level. If so, then Clived's 1/4 time and speed adjusted to 500' (see below) become 14.212 and 97.798, respectively.
#grogan545's (average of best 3) and Znod's (average of best 5) results were produced using g-meters. They are adjusted for weather and altitude to 500'. grogan545i's unadjusted values, from 400', are 13.382 and 105.229. Znod's unadjusted values, from 1600', are 13.634 and 103.378.
needforspeed found 1/4 in 14.5 and 0 to 100 in 15 for the 535d at FastSaloon.com. If we can determine that they result from tests that appear to be unbiased, then I will include them above.
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Originally Posted by Znod' post='262985' date='Mar 31 2006, 03:40 PM
I am using "apparently" to indicate all I have is hearsay from others. I don't think that I have ever seen you make the claim, but maybe I missed it. I would appreciate answers to my questions. Perhaps others would too. And, I don't make the sort of insinuations that you may be inferring that I do.
Yes, I did a 13.8(0something) in my DMS'd 535d. I'm sure that in the right conditions / with a little more practice a high 13.7 would have been possible - maybe just by losing the extra half a tank of fuel I didn't need and finding the exact rev point to be holding at to avoid any wheel spin - but I only had time for 3 runs that day, so didn't do it, so I'll still with 13.8 :-) I do have the slip here sometime - good excuse to tidy the study this weekend maybe!
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Originally Posted by clived' post='263019' date='Mar 31 2006, 06:55 PM
Ok, that's cool - I'm sure you can see where I was coming from :-)
Yes, I did a 13.8(0something) in my DMS'd 535d. I'm sure that in the right conditions / with a little more practice a high 13.7 would have been possible - maybe just by losing the extra half a tank of fuel I didn't need and finding the exact rev point to be holding at to avoid any wheel spin - but I only had time for 3 runs that day, so didn't do it, so I'll still with 13.8 :-) I do have the slip here sometime - good excuse to tidy the study this weekend maybe!
Yes, I did a 13.8(0something) in my DMS'd 535d. I'm sure that in the right conditions / with a little more practice a high 13.7 would have been possible - maybe just by losing the extra half a tank of fuel I didn't need and finding the exact rev point to be holding at to avoid any wheel spin - but I only had time for 3 runs that day, so didn't do it, so I'll still with 13.8 :-) I do have the slip here sometime - good excuse to tidy the study this weekend maybe!
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Originally Posted by clived' post='263019' date='Mar 31 2006, 10:55 AM
Ok, that's cool - I'm sure you can see where I was coming from :-)
Yes, I did a 13.8(0something) in my DMS'd 535d. I'm sure that in the right conditions / with a little more practice a high 13.7 would have been possible - maybe just by losing the extra half a tank of fuel I didn't need and finding the exact rev point to be holding at to avoid any wheel spin - but I only had time for 3 runs that day, so didn't do it, so I'll still with 13.8 :-) I do have the slip here sometime - good excuse to tidy the study this weekend maybe!
Yes, I did a 13.8(0something) in my DMS'd 535d. I'm sure that in the right conditions / with a little more practice a high 13.7 would have been possible - maybe just by losing the extra half a tank of fuel I didn't need and finding the exact rev point to be holding at to avoid any wheel spin - but I only had time for 3 runs that day, so didn't do it, so I'll still with 13.8 :-) I do have the slip here sometime - good excuse to tidy the study this weekend maybe!
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Yes, sorry guys, the 14.1 was pre-remap.
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Originally Posted by clived' post='263036' date='Mar 31 2006, 11:43 AM
Yes, sorry guys, the 14.1 was pre-remap.
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All I can remember of the day is that everyone was complaining that the strip was having a slippery day - it opened very late (we were sat at the front of the queue - 535d, 745iL and 530d) for over an hour waiting for them to get going. The weather was overcast.