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Old 07-20-2013 | 06:31 PM
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Got smoke coming out of the exhaust!!! It happens when I hit the throttle after being idle for a bit. Happens when I'm at a long stop light then when I take off hard it smokes!!! I've checked the PCV diaphragm and the rubber membranes are intact for both banks of the engine. Could it be anything besides the dreaded valve seals? HELP!!!

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Old 07-21-2013 | 08:23 PM
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Hey man I have a post in the parts and accessories section called dual catch can setup that fixed this problem for me. i had the same thing happening to me so its worth a shot before dropping a few grand
Old 07-22-2013 | 11:16 AM
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Just found the thread dual catch can! Brilliant! I will definitely try this and thank you for taking the time to share this info I greatly appreciate it!
Old 07-22-2013 | 12:20 PM
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no problem man. if you have any questions pm me or post in that thread
Old 07-23-2013 | 05:57 PM
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How many miles are on it and what color is the smoke?

Valve seals are most likely.
Old 07-24-2013 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by proplan
Got smoke coming out of the exhaust!!! It happens when I hit the throttle after being idle for a bit. Happens when I'm at a long stop light then when I take off hard it smokes!!! I've checked the PCV diaphragm and the rubber membranes are intact for both banks of the engine. Could it be anything besides the dreaded valve seals? HELP!!!

Oil consumption was excessive - It smoked - I was told I needed valve stem seals

My car (didn't pass smog & couldn't renew registration);
2006 BMW 550I – 92,000 miles – V8 (N62TU)
Smokes (white/gray/blue) – failed visual – Smog Report (15 mph – HC ppm Measured 91 – Max. 49)

Symptoms & history;
It used oil (approx. 1 qt. per 2-3 tanks) and I read the history of V8 valve stem problems (internet & local shop research), I was about to have the valve guide/stem seals replaced or drive the car off a cliff. But it didn’t have the classic symptoms of defective valve stem seals/guides. It also ran like a rapped ape (old school for ran great). I’m a heavy truck mechanic with old school car experience (35 years). The plugs were clean and the exhaust smelled funny, also the exhaust dripped clean water no matter how hot or long it ran. I pulled the intake throttle housing and noticed excessive oil. Replaced the (ccv) diaphragms in the valve covers (torn) & read up on the cyclone oil separator (like a Dyson vacuum). Because I wasn’t happy with the oil consumption & residue in the intake, I fabricated a Scotch Brite pad filter with screen for each valve cover vent outlet. As well as a pre-filter for the CCV diaphragm base. This cleaned out the oil residue and has greatly reduced oil consumption while allowing crankcase recirculation. I pulled the spark plugs and stuck a camera down a couple plug holes. Yes, the top of the pistons were loaded with carbon. So I sprayed Sea Foam in each plug hole, followed by a shot of low pressure shop air to help spread it around the piston. I let it sit for an hour or so, then reinstalled the plugs. I topped off the fuel tank with high octane and added 12 oz. of CRC Fuel System Cleaner (part #05063) to the tank. 100 miles later and what a difference – no smoke or water dipping out the exhaust after warm up.

****This note was copied from a BMW Technical Training manual
Note: If the exhaust system produces blue smoke, it is necessary to check whether the engine is also drawing oil into the combustion chamber through the crankcase breather, which suggest that there is a fault in the area of the crankcase breather. A clear sign of a problem is an oiled up clean-air pipe.

****The valve stem diameter was increase at a production point (you would assume) to remedy the guide problem. I don't believe BMW would use inferior stem seals after this change, if ever. My vehicle has now passed smog test & no longer smokes. I did have to run the proceedure twice before it lowerd the HC levels within specs. I will probably was the Chevron fuel treatment from this point on. (See attached TS It cost me $200 to fix compared to the $4000 > $5000 I was told it would take for a guide/seal replacement.
SI B 13 05 06 & SI B 13 01 07

**** Day 35 - 1200+ miles later NO smoke or excessive water from tailpipe - It also **** Does not need any oil ****
For those of you seasoned mechanics replacing guides & seals - This worked for me - my vehicle - my situation - but I believe you should diagnose each vehicle on an individual basis - Regardless of BMW guide/valve stem history.
Old 07-26-2013 | 01:30 AM
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check your oil level sensor. The car prob has NO oil and your driving it. It happened to me and cost the warrenty company 6 grand:/.. Good Now but the dealer raped them! Good Lck kiid!!!!
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