best sounding diesel .. MB E30 CDI AMG
04-10-2006, 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgos' post='267138' date='Apr 10 2006, 04:43 PM
U might be right about the bmw diesel sounding better than any other diesel. But i think bmw petrol engines also sound better than rivals. Especially the M versions which are the best sounding cars on the planet. Sorry, i am a real bmw-man, always been and always will be.
But hey i'm telling you let's not bring M cars engine sound into equation. There is no comparison with no bmw engine be it non M petrol or diesel.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='267140' date='Apr 10 2006, 03:47 PM
Agree with that. If we are talking about engine sound there is one car that i love more than anything especially for it's sound. Porsche carrera gt. That's a sound that i would love to hear anyday. I never heard an engine sound better. Not even competition engines (Even F1, fia gt, WTCC, or whatever)
But hey i'm telling you let's not bring M cars engine sound into equation. There is no comparison with no bmw engine be it non M petrol or diesel.
But hey i'm telling you let's not bring M cars engine sound into equation. There is no comparison with no bmw engine be it non M petrol or diesel.
04-10-2006, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgos' post='267145' date='Apr 10 2006, 05:14 PM
About 15 years ago when i wasnt convinced yet that bmw's were the best cars i was driving a 1987 Alfa Romeo 75 3.0 V6 America. Dont know if u even know this car but that car had some real sounds. And affordable as well. I loved that car.
PS:155 Q4. I think that's correct. What a car but wil alot of problems, electrical stuff especially and very moody.
04-10-2006, 06:34 AM
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='267149' date='Apr 10 2006, 04:24 PM
Yes i think i know the car. HEEEY we have smth in commoun. I also was an Alfa fan. Never owned one but still before i turned to bmw. I wanted a 156 GTA, but also a friend of mine had a 155 q smth. That car really ate bmws for dinner. 0-100 in 7,1 seconds or less if good launched since it was 4X4. But then i discovered smth else mainly (rwd fun, the essence in real life performance, good build quality, good resale value, good reliabilty) wich however you put it , afla doesn't ahve any of it. The thing was that i hated bmw owners especially the E30 and earlier model that thought they could beat anything and because in general i hate arogant and men with grandomany, i hated bmw in a way, alfa was the real street car that could have matched them. But then suddenly i turned away and walked the correct road.
PS:155 Q4. I think that's correct. What a car but wil alot of problems, electrical stuff especially and very moody.
PS:155 Q4. I think that's correct. What a car but wil alot of problems, electrical stuff especially and very moody.
And your right about the negative points on Alfa's, but in the early days when they were still real driver's cars i took that for granted but unfortunately Alfa went too commercial and lost the real feeling with driving. I know the Alfa 155 Q4, nice ride and the 156 GTA still has an amazing sound
and frontwheel drive :thumbsdown:
04-10-2006, 06:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Georgos' post='267158' date='Apr 10 2006, 05:34 PM
I turned to bmw cause the Alfa 75 was the last Alfa with rear wheel drive. After that they only made front wheel drive cars. And that i dont like.
And your right about the negative points on Alfa's, but in the early days when they were still real driver's cars i took that for granted but unfortunately Alfa went too commercial and lost the real feeling with driving. I know the Alfa 155 Q4, nice ride and the 156 GTA still has an amazing sound and frontwheel drive :thumbsdown:
And your right about the negative points on Alfa's, but in the early days when they were still real driver's cars i took that for granted but unfortunately Alfa went too commercial and lost the real feeling with driving. I know the Alfa 155 Q4, nice ride and the 156 GTA still has an amazing sound
and frontwheel drive :thumbsdown:
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yes it might be a match at times for a 330i (xi will take it from a start) as soon as the 535i/335i comes , it will be pointless to compare
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Originally Posted by Georgos' post='267138' date='Apr 10 2006, 02:43 PM
U might be right about the bmw diesel sounding better than any other diesel. But i think bmw petrol engines also sound better than rivals. Especially the M versions which are the best sounding cars on the planet. Sorry, i am a real bmw-man, always been and always will be.
But BMW petrol engines are really refined - they have a characteristic 'techno' sound - actually quite quiet and smooth.
Personally, although I am a BMW man through and through (530 is my 7th in a row), I actually prefer the engine note in other cars.
I like something a bit more visceral - like a 'proper' v8 sound (bmw V8 sounds VERY nice, but not dirty)......
I knew someone who ran an old ford capri 2800 .... very old fashioned - but that engine sounded like the devil himself.....proper low down crackle and grunt.....
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Originally Posted by Georgos' post='267158' date='Apr 10 2006, 04:34 PM
I turned to bmw cause the Alfa 75 was the last Alfa with rear wheel drive. After that they only made front wheel drive cars. And that i dont like.
And your right about the negative points on Alfa's, but in the early days when they were still real driver's cars i took that for granted but unfortunately Alfa went too commercial and lost the real feeling with driving. I know the Alfa 155 Q4, nice ride and the 156 GTA still has an amazing sound and frontwheel drive :thumbsdown:
And your right about the negative points on Alfa's, but in the early days when they were still real driver's cars i took that for granted but unfortunately Alfa went too commercial and lost the real feeling with driving. I know the Alfa 155 Q4, nice ride and the 156 GTA still has an amazing sound
and frontwheel drive :thumbsdown:Then it became state-owned and eventually FIAT took over dropping rear wheel-drive. I agree with you, today's Alfas (none of which is rear wheel-drive, there's only a few 4 wheel drive, but it's not the same) have nothing in common with those of the 60s-early 70s heyday. To make things worse the latest 159's and Brera's engines are made by an Australian subsidiary of GM! The plight of globalisation...
