No Bluetooth what to do?
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Yes, BTUM is the "Bluetooth Upgrade Module" that is BMW's aftermarket solution for any car (not just E60) that used the CPT9000 hard-wired phone. The module is made for BMW by Motorola and it emulates the original Motorola V60 phone from the car's point of view. What makes it cool is that to a BT enabled cell phone, the BTUM looks like the car has a BT interface.
Essentially, it fools the phone into thinking it's connected to a car and it fools the car into thinking it's connected to a hard-wired phone.
It's been around since the beginning of 2006. Take a look at this bulletin:
btUM.pdf
And the original thread were we discussed this "new" option:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=21734
Essentially, it fools the phone into thinking it's connected to a car and it fools the car into thinking it's connected to a hard-wired phone.
It's been around since the beginning of 2006. Take a look at this bulletin:
btUM.pdf
And the original thread were we discussed this "new" option:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=21734
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='470493' date='Sep 17 2007, 07:01 PM
Yes, BTUM is the "Bluetooth Upgrade Module" that is BMW's aftermarket solution for any car (not just E60) that used the CPT9000 hard-wired phone. The module is made for BMW by Motorola and it emulates the original Motorola V60 phone from the car's point of view. What makes it cool is that to a BT enabled cell phone, the BTUM looks like the car has a BT interface.
Essentially, it fools the phone into thinking it's connected to a car and it fools the car into thinking it's connected to a hard-wired phone.
It's been around since the beginning of 2006. Take a look at this bulletin:
Attachment 37666
And the original thread were we discussed this "new" option:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=21734
Essentially, it fools the phone into thinking it's connected to a car and it fools the car into thinking it's connected to a hard-wired phone.
It's been around since the beginning of 2006. Take a look at this bulletin:
Attachment 37666
And the original thread were we discussed this "new" option:
http://forums.e60.net/index.php?showtopic=21734
Do any members here still have this? Is it still offered? I checked my ASAP portal and couldn't find any info.
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Originally Posted by BigLew' post='470521' date='Sep 17 2007, 11:02 PM
Ah I see. For TCU with embedded phone (CPT 9000) option. Thanks for the info.
Do any members here still have this? Is it still offered? I checked my ASAP portal and couldn't find any info.
Do any members here still have this? Is it still offered? I checked my ASAP portal and couldn't find any info.
I imagine that the part would still be offered -- it wouldn't make sense to drop it, would it? I think the part number was listed in the thread I linked to above. Are you able to look up specific parts by number?
As far as people going the BTUM route to get some sort of BT functionality on a pre 3/2004 build car, I'm thinking the scarce parts may be the CPT-9000 eject box and cradle. Not sure if they're offered anymore. Something tells me that with so many 2004 cars coming off of lease now, there will be a new surge in demand for the BTUM and other required parts...
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OK so I did some more digging around. So here is what I found from a combination of TIS, Aftersales and DCSnet.
Starting with all MY 2005 (production 9/04 for E60) vehicles equipped with BMW Assist? (except E65/66 7 Series starting from 3/05) now has integrated Bluetooth capability.
For E60 vehicles produced from 3/04 to 8/04, Bluetooth functionality can be added to most of these vehicles by updating the vehicle software. The "most" part was never really clarified in this document.
For E60s 7/03 to 3/04 production, if your TCU part number is one of the following, then you must upgrade new TCU.
? 84 11 6 937 338
? 84 11 6 938 782
? 84 11 6 942 592
Either way BMW Assist has to be activated.
09/03 up to 08/04 Production E60s with CPT9000 option from the factory can be upgraded with the BTUM. Docking cradles cannot be retrofitted for vehicles prior to 9/04, which I guess is kinda moot since that is when standard equpped BT TCUs came out.
Note: I can see why there is so much confusion, I had to look up 3 or 4 different documents in completely different departments to find all this info.
Starting with all MY 2005 (production 9/04 for E60) vehicles equipped with BMW Assist? (except E65/66 7 Series starting from 3/05) now has integrated Bluetooth capability.
For E60 vehicles produced from 3/04 to 8/04, Bluetooth functionality can be added to most of these vehicles by updating the vehicle software. The "most" part was never really clarified in this document.
For E60s 7/03 to 3/04 production, if your TCU part number is one of the following, then you must upgrade new TCU.
? 84 11 6 937 338
? 84 11 6 938 782
? 84 11 6 942 592
Either way BMW Assist has to be activated.
09/03 up to 08/04 Production E60s with CPT9000 option from the factory can be upgraded with the BTUM. Docking cradles cannot be retrofitted for vehicles prior to 9/04, which I guess is kinda moot since that is when standard equpped BT TCUs came out.
Note: I can see why there is so much confusion, I had to look up 3 or 4 different documents in completely different departments to find all this info.
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Thanks for digging things up BigLew. You could've saved yourself some time and found all that information on these forums!
The docking cradle issue isn't a moot point since there is such a thing as a docking cradle for bluetooth phones. The advantage of docking a BT phone is that it charges the phone's battery (or provides power to it without draining the battery) as well as interfacing with the external antenna (by either direct connection or an inductive connection, depending on the phone.) There are many people who would like to install one of these BT cradles in their cars but unfortunately, if the car was produced before 9/04, they won't work...
The docking cradle issue isn't a moot point since there is such a thing as a docking cradle for bluetooth phones. The advantage of docking a BT phone is that it charges the phone's battery (or provides power to it without draining the battery) as well as interfacing with the external antenna (by either direct connection or an inductive connection, depending on the phone.) There are many people who would like to install one of these BT cradles in their cars but unfortunately, if the car was produced before 9/04, they won't work...
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='470600' date='Sep 17 2007, 11:03 PM
Thanks for digging things up BigLew. You could've saved yourself some time and found all that information on these forums!
The docking cradle issue isn't a moot point since there is such a thing as a docking cradle for bluetooth phones. The advantage of docking a BT phone is that it charges the phone's battery (or provides power to it without draining the battery) as well as interfacing with the external antenna (by either direct connection or an inductive connection, depending on the phone.) There are many people who would like to install one of these BT cradles in their cars but unfortunately, if the car was produced before 9/04, they won't work...
The docking cradle issue isn't a moot point since there is such a thing as a docking cradle for bluetooth phones. The advantage of docking a BT phone is that it charges the phone's battery (or provides power to it without draining the battery) as well as interfacing with the external antenna (by either direct connection or an inductive connection, depending on the phone.) There are many people who would like to install one of these BT cradles in their cars but unfortunately, if the car was produced before 9/04, they won't work...
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What's the experience of people been like with the Parrot kit with the steering wheel buttons. Isn't that a good and cheaper alternative.
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Originally Posted by BigLew' post='470608' date='Sep 18 2007, 01:17 AM
Oh I see, I figured the docking cradle was for CPT9000 BTUM. I guess I need to learn to use search functions on forums better, but I guess you always go with what you know.
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Originally Posted by wyeomyia' post='471358' date='Sep 19 2007, 09:06 AM
Has anyone looked at Bimmernav's offering http://www.bimmernav.com/ ? It seems to solve many of these problems, but my dealer still says no bluetooth possible for my 6/04 production E60, even though Bimmernav says their kits are genuine BMW.
Unless there's something I'm missing here, I'd say your dealer is incorrect about the impossibility of BT in your car...
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Originally Posted by Rudy' post='471383' date='Sep 19 2007, 10:03 AM
Welcome. Please put your location (country at the very minimum) in your profile -- many issues are country specific.
Unless there's something I'm missing here, I'd say your dealer is incorrect about the impossibility of BT in your car...
Unless there's something I'm missing here, I'd say your dealer is incorrect about the impossibility of BT in your car...