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Old 10-25-2008 | 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by V70Cat' post='703697' date='Oct 26 2008, 01:08 AM
The I_Drive in my 2008 E61 works nice and it gives you control over so many different aspects of the car.
I love be able to fine tune the climate system and the heated seats.
WOW! Biggest signature pic ever!
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Originally Posted by DrLev99' post='703712' date='Oct 26 2008, 12:27 AM
WOW! Biggest signature pic ever!
Bwahahaha!! V70CAT, I need a 50" screen to view your Ginormous SIG!!!
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='703713' date='Oct 25 2008, 10:30 PM
Bwahahaha!! V70CAT, I need a 50" screen to view your Ginormous SIG!!!
+1, it's almost 3-d

IMO, a bit too big
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='703713' date='Oct 26 2008, 01:30 AM
Bwahahaha!! V70CAT, I need a 50" screen to view your Ginormous SIG!!!
Your right it was to big sorry
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Originally Posted by V70Cat' post='703720' date='Oct 26 2008, 12:48 AM
Your right it was to big sorry
Hey, where did it go?? Awesome sig, just resize it down a bit.
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Originally Posted by DRANGED' post='703722' date='Oct 26 2008, 01:50 AM
Hey, where did it go?? Awesome sig, just resize it down a bit.

http://www.tuningnews.net/wallpaper/hamann...1/1280x1024/07/
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Jonathan, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I carefully read the NYT piece to see what I would see as potential faults and I pride myself on picking the same items you found fault with. Good job to you .

I agree that the NYT article tried to lump gen 1, 2, and 3 together in the ultra slow category and that is just not so. While we may all agree we would like snappier response the gen 2 & 3 certainly are fully capable of easy manipulation while driving. I think I can attest to many of the imptovements in iDrive via software upgrades (most in my signature). Including the "as delivered" version I am on my 8th PROGMAN/CIP. All but two were real advances while those two exceptions were either slower or fault prone or both.

I have had an '08 335i as a loaner and was impressed with its quick iDrive response progress over my version. All in all I have been pleased with the current version but probably will be even more pleased with the gen 4 improvements when I get my TTV8 6er, whenever that is.
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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='709149' date='Oct 31 2008, 07:49 PM
Jonathan, thanks for bringing this to my attention. I carefully read the NYT piece to see what I would see as potential faults and I pride myself on picking the same items you found fault with. Good job to you .

I agree that the NYT article tried to lump gen 1, 2, and 3 together in the ultra slow category and that is just not so. While we may all agree we would like snappier response the gen 2 & 3 certainly are fully capable of easy manipulation while driving. I think I can attest to many of the imptovements in iDrive via software upgrades (most in my signature). Including the "as delivered" version I am on my 8th PROGMAN/CIP. All but two were real advances while those two exceptions were either slower or fault prone or both.

I have had an '08 335i as a loaner and was impressed with its quick iDrive response progress over my version. All in all I have been pleased with the current version but probably will be even more pleased with the gen 4 improvements when I get my TTV8 6er, whenever that is.
Yes, the '08 version is plenty fast enough in most cases. It still is a bit slow scrolling a long list and in startup but both are much improved over the '06 version.
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Originally Posted by cobradav' post='709149' date='Oct 31 2008, 04:49 PM
I agree that the NYT article tried to lump gen 1, 2, and 3 together in the ultra slow category and that is just not so. While we may all agree we would like snappier response the gen 2 & 3 certainly are fully capable of easy manipulation while driving. I think I can attest to many of the imptovements in iDrive via software upgrades (most in my signature). Including the "as delivered" version I am on my 8th PROGMAN/CIP. All but two were real advances while those two exceptions were either slower or fault prone or both.
I had Gen 2 in my cars and I personally felt it was terribly slow. Gen 3 is much better, and Gen 4 will be better still, but in my cars at least I didn't consider the response times on Gen 2 to be acceptable. When you consider the driving principle behind iDrive is the minimization of distractions to the driver, it's somewhat ironic that the poor response times and buggy haptic feedback in the earlier versions created distractions of their own. As I said above, I think the NYT got that point at least right in their article and any error in lumping Gen 3 with the earlier versions (and I'm not even sure I agree that the NYT article actually reads that way) doesn't undermine the validity of their central point: There are plenty of E60's on the road today that still have the older versions and are still capable of creating distractions to the driver because of their sluggish operation.
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To be honest, the graphics still look old compared to other manufacturers. When compared to the old idrive it performs much better, but it is still inferior to other units.


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