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Old 11-14-2005, 01:09 PM
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With the announcement of Porsche getting 20% of VW and knowing that the Cayenne is made mostly of parts from the VW Touareg http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflas..._6364_db046.htm

....I'm proud to own a BMW ... when I see Lexus/Toyota, Nissan/Infinity, Mercedes/Chryler, Ford/Volvo-Jaguar, GM/Saab, Audi-Porsche/VW I wonder...

It seems like BMW is a rebel...what are you thoughts? Is BMW loosing or winning by staying independant?
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Originally Posted by Dantheman' post='198230' date='Nov 14 2005, 05:09 PM
With the announcement of Porsche getting 20% of VW and knowing that the Cayenne is made mostly of parts from the VW Touareg http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflas..._6364_db046.htm

....I'm proud to own a BMW ... when I see Lexus/Toyota, Nissan/Infinity, Mercedes/Chryler, Ford/Volvo, GM/Saab, Audi-Porsche/VW I wonder...

It seems like BMW is a rebel...or am I just a snob?..what are you thoughts? Is BMW loosing or winning by staying independant? If they're loosing..who will be the bride?
What about BMW/Rolls Royce/Mini? How are these names related? Are they related in ways different from those you mentioned? Am I right that BMW and Rolls are related in some way?
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Originally Posted by donv' post='198235
With the announcement of Porsche getting 20% of VW and knowing that the Cayenne is made mostly of parts from the VW Touareg http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflas..._6364_db046.htm

....I'm proud to own a BMW ... when I see Lexus/Toyota, Nissan/Infinity, Mercedes/Chryler, Ford/Volvo, GM/Saab, Audi-Porsche/VW I wonder...

It seems like BMW is a rebel...or am I just a snob?..what are you thoughts? Is BMW loosing or winning by staying independant? If they're loosing..who will be the bride?
What about BMW/Rolls Royce/Mini? How are these names related? Are they related in ways different from those you mentioned? Am I right that BMW and Rolls are related in some way?
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Talking mainstream here...I didn't mention lambo, aston-martin or ferrari either... I see a big difference..I think we should be proud to own a BMW
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BMW/Rolls-Royce/Mini are all part of BMWGroup.

Lamborghini is FIAT/GM if I am not mistaken.
Bugatti is VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda, Sear, Porsche)
Aston Martin is Ford
Ferrari is FIAT/GM

You could easily say that BMW is one of the last independent ones. I would say the largest independent one.
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Originally Posted by big_ipaq' post='198241' date='Nov 14 2005, 05:24 PM
BMW/Rolls-Royce/Mini are all part of BMWGroup.

Lamborghini is FIAT/GM if I am not mistaken.
Bugatti is VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda, Sear, Porsche)
Aston Martin is Ford
Ferrari is FIAT/GM

You could easily say that BMW is one of the last independent ones. I would say the largest independent one.
How do you define "group?" Are none of the others mentioned above part of a similarly defined group? How was the RR/BMW/Mini group formed? And, however you spell it, what about Hundai? Is Hundai all alone? If so, poor Hundai. ~{;^)
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Originally Posted by big_ipaq' post='198241' date='Nov 14 2005, 10:24 PM
BMW/Rolls-Royce/Mini are all part of BMWGroup.

Lamborghini is FIAT/GM if I am not mistaken.
Bugatti is VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda, Sear, Porsche)
Aston Martin is Ford
Ferrari is FIAT/GM

You could easily say that BMW is one of the last independent ones. I would say the largest independent one.
Actually Lamborghini is part of VW like Bentley.
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Originally Posted by BMW530' post='198254
BMW/Rolls-Royce/Mini are all part of BMWGroup.

Lamborghini is FIAT/GM if I am not mistaken.
Bugatti is VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda, Sear, Porsche)
Aston Martin is Ford
Ferrari is FIAT/GM

You could easily say that BMW is one of the last independent ones. I would say the largest independent one.
Actually Lamborghini is part of VW like Bentley.
[/quote]I think the original poster needs to define what he means by "independant mainstream/(pure) car company."
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Originally Posted by donv' post='198258
Originally Posted by big_ipaq' post='198241' date='Nov 14 2005, 10:24 PM
BMW/Rolls-Royce/Mini are all part of BMWGroup.

Lamborghini is FIAT/GM if I am not mistaken.
Bugatti is VAG (VW, Audi, Skoda, Sear, Porsche)
Aston Martin is Ford
Ferrari is FIAT/GM

You could easily say that BMW is one of the last independent ones. I would say the largest independent one.
Actually Lamborghini is part of VW like Bentley.
I think the original poster needs to define what he means by "independant mainstream/(pure) car company."
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Ok let's define it by a company not sharing platforms or components from a lower class car
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Originally Posted by BMW530' post='198254
How do you define "group?" Are none of the others mentioned above part of a similarly defined group? How was the RR/BMW/Mini group formed? And, however you spell it, what about Hundai? Is Hundai all alone? If so, poor Hundai. ~{;^)
It's Hyundai. I think they're not independent now, but I cannot remember which group they're part of.

Hyundai Tucson is the same car with Kia Sorento, if I am not mistaken.

Kia was bought also recently.

Toyota is also independent.
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