BMW to offer diesels in US in 2008
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='362259' date='Nov 30 2006, 09:39 PM
Obviously : xxx HP are in 4k rpms instead of 7k rpms .
Downshift, put the PETROL engine @5000 rpm and push the pedal ....
Downshift, put the PETROL engine @5000 rpm and push the pedal ....
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='362270' date='Nov 30 2006, 10:04 PM
No, 745d Vs 750i 
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='362269' date='Nov 30 2006, 10:04 PM
Sorry for my (bad) english .. I mean that diesel engine have always shorter gear, thus you remain impressed by diesel engine ... But if you have on the side a petrol, it is faster 
I can see what your saying but you still have to extend the engine to extract that performance
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Originally Posted by 525dse' post='362271' date='Nov 30 2006, 11:05 PM
This bit I do get. theres no doubting that petrol is ultimately faster in the lower gears and has a higher rev range. But this is my point, peak torque and power are much lower down the rev range than on a petrol. With petrol you have to 'plant' you foot much further to give the car the same twist of speed as a diesel because the power is higher up.
Choose the Steptronic or use the SMG in Drive mode : kickdown
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true but think of the fuel your wasting 
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Originally Posted by KAF' post='362189' date='Dec 1 2006, 01:58 AM
When they hit the US many will be surprised at what they get, don't knock it till you have used one long term.
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Originally Posted by aybeesea' post='362204' date='Nov 30 2006, 06:37 PM
For the pedants among us I should've not edited out my original additional emboldening of the power ratings for the 530i and 535d when illustrating why a comparison was of interest.
I had hoped that was the blindingly obvious significant combinitorial factor.
I have been proved wrong - not for the first time.
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I had hoped that was the blindingly obvious significant combinitorial factor.
I have been proved wrong - not for the first time.
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255 bhp / 265 bhp = 96%
265 bhp / 325 bhp = 82%
so would you mind explaining in what way the 545i is the most blindingly obvious comparable? Clearly, a petrol engine revving at 6500+ rpm with roughly the same peak power as a Diesel revving at 4200 is going to have a lower torque. It is equally obvious that it will have a shorter gearing. What is NOT obvious is that the Diesel will outperform it significantly on most dimensions.
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Originally Posted by AlexFW' post='362229' date='Dec 1 2006, 04:10 AM
The M5 has less torque than 535d ... Thus 535d is faster than M5 ?
Ferrari F430 : 465 Nm
550i : 480 Nm
550i is faster than 430 ?
The 430 does 3.6-3.7s on 0-62 MPH, 550i 5.5s .
0-200 kmh : 12.9s for the F430, 18-19s for 550i .
Ferrari F430 : 465 Nm
550i : 480 Nm
550i is faster than 430 ?
The 430 does 3.6-3.7s on 0-62 MPH, 550i 5.5s .
0-200 kmh : 12.9s for the F430, 18-19s for 550i .
I would kill for 1 of these.
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Originally Posted by swajames' post='362215' date='Nov 30 2006, 06:53 PM
Why the snotty comments? :'( Perhaps you misread my post? FWIW I suspect that 545/550 owners in the US will be very impressed with BMW's diesels and are highly likely to be potential customers (I'm personally in that category). And I suspect that most M5 owners do quite like the 550, too.
In the UK if fuel prices and stupid depreciation didn't affect buying decisions then I wonder who would've bought a 550i instead of a 535d?
I can't imagine everyone buys a diesel for its lower CO2 emissions (other than getting a tax break).
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