Member545

I assume you mean Kerry using Chaney's daughter. But you're right, those kind of comments about someones family (and Edwards has done the same!) have no place in this election.
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Cheney has said he has no problem with his daughter's sexual preference, in fact he gave it as one of his reasons he is against a constitutional amedment banning gay marriage, which Bush is for. He meant no disrespect to her or Cheney.

Member545

I really think Kerry can make a difference. Bush is completely pro-business. He has rolled back hundreds of EPA regulations including how much arsenic is "acceptable" in drinking water to allow mining companies to continue to pollute. There are hundreds of other examples. http://www.sierraclub.org/politics/

He has no commitment at all to renewable energy, I think if Gore had been in office we would have been much further down the road to energy independence.

Besides the fact that the Republicans control the House, Senate, Executive and Legislative branches. That's how he was "elected" in the first place...

And I don't even want to thing about the tax cuts and how he is trying to buy votes.

kscarrol

Not sure I believe that Member545, but that's beside the point. Kerry could have (and should have!) made his point about Bush's stance on homosexuality without bringing Chaney's daughter into it. All he has to point to is Bush's stance on gay marrige and take it fro there...

kscarrol

can't disagree about some of the EPA regulations Member545, but say that Bush is trying "buy" votes with his tax cuts! Please, what does that say about Kerry's stand on keeping those tax cuts for anyone making less than $200,000. Sounds like the same attempt to "buy" votes to me.

Member545

When I got the $400 check in the mail, it said on it, brought to you by President Bush. That seemed like a bribe, especially since it was really a credit on next years refund. What really hurts is firehouses that are closing, the teachers getting laid off, school programs being cut. Kerry can't possibly say he will take back the tax cuts for those under $200K/year that doesn't fly politically, and it is not where most of the tax cuts were anyway.

gmartin

Sorry I've been busy. I am quite proud/ashamed my thread was closed. Once again Iceman beat me to it (Foglights).
Member - I am not going to try and point out the reams of evidence of why I feel W should remain President. I can tell from your replies ("elected") that you, like the majority of people who will vote for JFK, dislike Bush. JFK is just the Dem nominee and you would vote for anyone who was, just because he is not Bush. JFK has been on both sides of most issues including the war - Vietnam oh, I meant Iraq. If he had the guts to admit that he is an unabashed liberal, like Howard Dean did, then I would respect but still dislike him. W will tell you exactly where he stands and rarely wavers or waffles and some might say this is one of his major faults. All I can say is not one American has died on our soil from a terrorist attack since 9/11. I'd rather our courageous armed forces fight them in Iraq then have civilians killed in downtown Boston.

Member545

Like I said, I know people that are firmly in the Bush camp won't be swayed by an avatar or signature, or anything I have to say for that matter, and I am sure you don't think you will change my mind. But for those that are for Kerry it is an easy way to find events to help the campain. I am very strongly opposed to Bush. And I honestly think he went about the whole war on terror the wrong way. It appears that Bush has linked Sept 11th and Iraq for you. But we all know that Iraq was not connected to 9/11. Like I also said earlier, I do not feel safe. I think it is only a matter of time before something else happens and I don't want to feel again the way I did on Sept 11th. I lost a high school friend that was a firefighter in the Twin Towers. My brother was covered in ash when the buildings collapsed as he was running for his life.

gmartin

Member I feel sorry for your loss. I don't think anyone feels that Saddam was directly involved in 9/11(including Bush), but his regime, after the Taliban and maybe Iran, was the most safest haven for terrorists. Remember the 30k USD he gave to each Palestinian suicide bomber? Abu Nidal? The airplane fuselage at Salman Pak? Al Zawahari was their prior to the invasion and is still there today. You are right - we are not safe and may never be and unfortunately we will be hit again regardless of who is president. These people respect only strength and that is what we must show them. Again better there than here.

JDN

Then kill it and quit trying to do something with the forum that is beyone the purpose.

Rudy

Touch?, JDN!