PACQUIAO VS COTTO
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Originally Posted by Ferdie' post='1055432' date='Nov 15 2009, 10:06 PM
Wow, so I'm in the conversation now. Oh I'm sure Mayweather won't be no coward against me. I'd give him the edge . All I'm sayin' is if he doesn't agree to a 51-49 share then what does that say about him? Let's see him fight Manny to decide who is really the best pound for pound. I bet you the fight won't happen because Mayweather will use money as the sticking issue. Mayweather won't even agree to a 50/50. Manny is the champ and Mayweather is the challenger now, why should Manny take less? We'll see.
As I've said in past posts, Manny is a good elite fighter. He?s exciting to watch and always in phenomenal condition. He could?ve knocked out Cotto earlier but for reasons unknown didn?t. I don?t know him personally but I think contrary to his brutal fighting style, he really doesn?t like hurting his opponents. Maybe he?s seen too much hurt in his life to dish it out with evil intent. Nevertheless, if fights Mayweather, it?s Mayweather?s fight to lose. Cotto is no Mayweather. Mayweather is always in great shape, doesn?t tire, has quick extraordinary upper body movement, punching accuracy and defense that will baffle Manny. Mayweather will not be open and will make Manny work hard to land a clean punch. Manny will overcome some of this with stamina and body movement that tends to square up his opponents. But, Manny is always wide open and won?t have a reach advantage. Even Cotto, who doesn?t have the fastest hands, could hit him. Cotto just couldn?t stop Manny from hitting him. Roach can?t teach Manny sufficient defense to avoid laser like punches from Mayweather that will find their mark and take their toll. The fight will likely look a lot like the early rounds of Mayweather /Hatton.
I?m not saying Manny doesn?t have a chance. What many trainers don?t see is that Manny also possesses very subtle skills that aren?t usually seen in traditional boxing. Like a Thai fighter, Manny trains his body not only for strength and endurance, but also for pain. Pain is something that modern athletic trainers don?t understand and are taught to avoid at all cost. Pain concerns the complicated nervous system and might result in a permanent damage and a lawsuit. Manny also ever so subtlety grapples and throws punches to lower an opponent's defense and set up power shots. He arm punches, grabs and clinches with specific purposes in mind. Although he was consistently pushed backward by the stronger Cotto, his superior stamina allowed him to throw lightly less powerful punches in greater numbers without tiring. If he?s lucky or skilled enough to hurt Mayweather, all Mayweather?s superior abilities go out the window. But unless I see Manny display Roberto Duran like defense, ring generalship and inside fighting skills, my money?s on Mayweather.
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Originally Posted by Frank5er' post='1055939' date='Nov 16 2009, 08:53 AM
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We should start a new thread for "Potential Pacquiao vs Mayweather". I'm sure a lot of people will have different opinions.
I know this is meaningless, but I just looked at the LA Times poll on who people thinks will win. It's a landslide for Manny at around 82% to 13% (remaining 5% a draw).
I know this is meaningless, but I just looked at the LA Times poll on who people thinks will win. It's a landslide for Manny at around 82% to 13% (remaining 5% a draw).
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Here's a little jab -
?Manny Pacquiao is just unbelievable,? Roach said. ?The first couple of rounds, I was a little bit worried, because he didn?t follow the plan. Toward the end of the second round, he got into the program and he made it look easy after that.?
Pacquiao was so good on Saturday, he was singing at the post-fight news conference and planned to head across the street to Mandalay Bay to sing eight songs in a concert.
The song he played in the ring was as good as anything that has been heard in a long time. He debunked many popular theories and took many of Mayweather?s arguments away from him.
If Mayweather doesn?t take the fight, he?ll simply be running. There?s no other way to put it.
- Yahoo Sports
?Manny Pacquiao is just unbelievable,? Roach said. ?The first couple of rounds, I was a little bit worried, because he didn?t follow the plan. Toward the end of the second round, he got into the program and he made it look easy after that.?
Pacquiao was so good on Saturday, he was singing at the post-fight news conference and planned to head across the street to Mandalay Bay to sing eight songs in a concert.
The song he played in the ring was as good as anything that has been heard in a long time. He debunked many popular theories and took many of Mayweather?s arguments away from him.
If Mayweather doesn?t take the fight, he?ll simply be running. There?s no other way to put it.
- Yahoo Sports
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One more from Yahoo Sports -
As good as Mayweather was in September in dismantling Marquez, Pacquiao was that much better. Pacquiao fought a bigger, stronger and better man and beat him into submission.
A clash between Mayweather and Pacquiao would be one of those epic battles that come only once every 25 years or so.
And while it once seemed inconceivable that Pacquiao could ever deal with Mayweather?s speed and defensive prowess, it isn?t any more.
Anyone who doubts the guy now is a fool.
As good as Mayweather was in September in dismantling Marquez, Pacquiao was that much better. Pacquiao fought a bigger, stronger and better man and beat him into submission.
A clash between Mayweather and Pacquiao would be one of those epic battles that come only once every 25 years or so.
And while it once seemed inconceivable that Pacquiao could ever deal with Mayweather?s speed and defensive prowess, it isn?t any more.
Anyone who doubts the guy now is a fool.
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Here's a little jab -
?Manny Pacquiao is just unbelievable,? Roach said. ?The first couple of rounds, I was a little bit worried, because he didn?t follow the plan. Toward the end of the second round, he got into the program and he made it look easy after that.?
Pacquiao was so good on Saturday, he was singing at the post-fight news conference and planned to head across the street to Mandalay Bay to sing eight songs in a concert.
The song he played in the ring was as good as anything that has been heard in a long time. He debunked many popular theories and took many of Mayweather?s arguments away from him.
If Mayweather doesn?t take the fight, he?ll simply be running. There?s no other way to put it.
- Yahoo Sports
?Manny Pacquiao is just unbelievable,? Roach said. ?The first couple of rounds, I was a little bit worried, because he didn?t follow the plan. Toward the end of the second round, he got into the program and he made it look easy after that.?
Pacquiao was so good on Saturday, he was singing at the post-fight news conference and planned to head across the street to Mandalay Bay to sing eight songs in a concert.
The song he played in the ring was as good as anything that has been heard in a long time. He debunked many popular theories and took many of Mayweather?s arguments away from him.
If Mayweather doesn?t take the fight, he?ll simply be running. There?s no other way to put it.
- Yahoo Sports
Originally Posted by Ferdie' post='1056020' date='Nov 16 2009, 01:12 PM
One more from Yahoo Sports -
As good as Mayweather was in September in dismantling Marquez, Pacquiao was that much better. Pacquiao fought a bigger, stronger and better man and beat him into submission.
A clash between Mayweather and Pacquiao would be one of those epic battles that come only once every 25 years or so.
And while it once seemed inconceivable that Pacquiao could ever deal with Mayweather?s speed and defensive prowess, it isn?t any more.
Anyone who doubts the guy now is a fool.
As good as Mayweather was in September in dismantling Marquez, Pacquiao was that much better. Pacquiao fought a bigger, stronger and better man and beat him into submission.
A clash between Mayweather and Pacquiao would be one of those epic battles that come only once every 25 years or so.
And while it once seemed inconceivable that Pacquiao could ever deal with Mayweather?s speed and defensive prowess, it isn?t any more.
Anyone who doubts the guy now is a fool.
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