Its all about RESPECT
09-17-2009 | 09:12 PM
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Thanks! Agreed.
No hard feelings at all dude. We are just debating, one of the best things about social interaction; you can help to change others' views, your own, as well as strengthening already felt opinions. I hope you don't feel i was disrepectful. Although I don't really understand about the lacking "self-respect" aspect of your argument.. as well as a "virtual public stoning". Agreeing with the flow doesn't always work man, things will never change like that. I was just defending others' right to not respect such woman and to explain that unconditional respect isn't realistic. And besides that, I don't really think the few guys who disagreed with me "stoned" me haha
Yes, there is a discrepancy; but thats the conundrum that I constantly try to unravel about human interations and our society's well being in relation to our moral decay..
I think BetterMakeWay helps to explain our major conflicting views below.. its about the difference between lack of respect vs. disrespecting. I am not condoning being disrespectful or rude, that is what I purposely try to avoid doing in all situations. I think you are understanding my "not respecting" someone to mean "disrespecting" or being a mean person. Calling a girl a bitch or a c*nt is straight up rude, and even calling loose girl a slut or a skank to her face is in bad taste (even if it may be true). I do however respect the right for others to judge people, to determine if they are deserving of respect or not. It is up to the individual to decide if they want to be viewed as a rude person or not. BTW offending others isnt the worst thing in the world (might not be tasteful).. even though its beginning to seem like that is the major hot button for our over-sensative country.
No hard feelings at all dude. We are just debating, one of the best things about social interaction; you can help to change others' views, your own, as well as strengthening already felt opinions. I hope you don't feel i was disrepectful. Although I don't really understand about the lacking "self-respect" aspect of your argument.. as well as a "virtual public stoning". Agreeing with the flow doesn't always work man, things will never change like that. I was just defending others' right to not respect such woman and to explain that unconditional respect isn't realistic. And besides that, I don't really think the few guys who disagreed with me "stoned" me haha
Yes, there is a discrepancy; but thats the conundrum that I constantly try to unravel about human interations and our society's well being in relation to our moral decay..
I think BetterMakeWay helps to explain our major conflicting views below.. its about the difference between lack of respect vs. disrespecting. I am not condoning being disrespectful or rude, that is what I purposely try to avoid doing in all situations. I think you are understanding my "not respecting" someone to mean "disrespecting" or being a mean person. Calling a girl a bitch or a c*nt is straight up rude, and even calling loose girl a slut or a skank to her face is in bad taste (even if it may be true). I do however respect the right for others to judge people, to determine if they are deserving of respect or not. It is up to the individual to decide if they want to be viewed as a rude person or not. BTW offending others isnt the worst thing in the world (might not be tasteful).. even though its beginning to seem like that is the major hot button for our over-sensative country.
However, I still feel that being disrespectful towards any woman is wrong for a man - it is an act of lowering his own worth, and it makes the man undignified, rather than anything else. Even if this girl is a real skank, calling her that - respect and manners aside - on a forum, which in all likelihood she is never going to read, will never lead to anything productive, so what's the point? But my point is something else: I feel that people who lower themselves to insulting a woman - or even being mildly disrespectful - do not deserve my respect. As it happens, I like this forum a lot and I do not want to feel lack of respect for anyone on here. Ever. Hence this thread.
On self-respect: it is my firm belief that true respect can only be felt by an individual who has developed a profound sense of self-respect. Much like one who hates him/herself can never truly love another person. I don't want to type up a book about it, but in a nutshell, such is my conviction - in my experience it is true: people who do not respect themselves cannot ever be respectful to others.
Originally Posted by forumballer' post='1010733' date='Sep 18 2009, 12:25 AM
i blame the media
09-18-2009 | 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by mrfva' post='1009439' date='Sep 16 2009, 04:00 PM
Uhm, actually it's a black 911 997 TT (twin turbo)
09-20-2009 | 10:26 AM
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Boy this is deep.
09-20-2009 | 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by v_therussian' post='1009967' date='Sep 17 2009, 01:15 AM
Any chance you guys could NOT post whore on this thread, please?
BTW I thought you two would have something more constructive to add to this topic...
BTW I thought you two would have something more constructive to add to this topic...
:thumbsdown:if that's not the pot calling the kettle....well you know...i don't know what is...
09-20-2009 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by GENEaTALS' post='1012394' date='Sep 20 2009, 01:55 PM
:thumbsdown:if that's not the pot calling the kettle black....well you know...i don't know what is...
09-20-2009 | 01:49 PM
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Can you postwhore on a thread in which the responses do not add to the post count? 