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Old 03-20-2006, 01:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='257566' date='Mar 20 2006, 01:34 PM
yeah Nick was good, but still the best was Nico!!! poor guys with Williams also BWM I hope they will be fed up once with that loosing races

JV was even better if he cud get an M5
and Ferrari was amazingly showing its capabilities in the end if the have 3-4 laps more they wud come one pos further but still
PS. one question still-take it serios- if you wanna take out your gal whcih car wud you choose?

A) world champ=RENAULT

the not so yet well performing= Ferrari

C) ... =BMW
BMW all the way.
You'll see that in time they will get their facts right and come out with the perfect car. They just lack some really good drivers like Alonso. After all it's the 2nd race in a "singular" team. I know it's bmw sauber but come on allmost all is bmw. In the race when it showed the team points, it simply wrote BMW. Wich is good .
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I hope BMW Sauber does well this year but I am not counting on it. It is too soon to expect any better results than mid-field on a regular basis. BMW bought an average performing team when they bought Sauber. Remember, for the past few years Sauber has had Ferrari Power and could only get to the middle of the pack. They do not have a history of a consistantly high achieving team.

I was really put-off last year by Mario Theissen constantly blaming the Williams chassis when it became obvious to everyone that the problem was the BMW engine. They probably went too conservative to make the engine last two race weekends and it was no longer the most powerful in the field. Rather than admitting that they got the 2005 engine wrong, Mario kept saying that the Wiliams chassis was not good. Be a man, Mario, stop blaming others. Lets see who gets the blame this year if BMW Sauber does not improve.

In the meantime, it must be gratifying for Sir Frank and Patrick to see their Williams cars faster on track than the BMW Saubers. Renault has to be the favorites but I don't see them with a lock on the Championship yet. Both Ferrari and McLaren will improve and Honda has a shot if they can get someone in the pits who understands race strategy.

It's going to be fun.
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Originally Posted by Wilchwitz' post='257708' date='Mar 20 2006, 10:14 PM
I hope BMW Sauber does well this year but I am not counting on it. It is too soon to expect any better results than mid-field on a regular basis. BMW bought an average performing team when they bought Sauber. Remember, for the past few years Sauber has had Ferrari Power and could only get to the middle of the pack. They do not have a history of a consistantly high achieving team.

I was really put-off last year by Mario Theissen constantly blaming the Williams chassis when it became obvious to everyone that the problem was the BMW engine. They probably went too conservative to make the engine last two race weekends and it was no longer the most powerful in the field. Rather than admitting that they got the 2005 engine wrong, Mario kept saying that the Wiliams chassis was not good. Be a man, Mario, stop blaming others. Lets see who gets the blame this year if BMW Sauber does not improve.

In the meantime, it must be gratifying for Sir Frank and Patrick to see their Williams cars faster on track than the BMW Saubers. Renault has to be the favorites but I don't see them with a lock on the Championship yet. Both Ferrari and McLaren will improve and Honda has a shot if they can get someone in the pits who understands race strategy.

It's going to be fun.
Finnaly another F1 fanatic...
I agree with you on everything although about the remark of Williams vs BMW Sauber i have to say that the driver has a key role in getting the best out of the car and thus better lap times. We will see if overall williams will deliver the better car. I for one don't think so...but we'll have to wait and see.

And btw do you know what's sauber's apport to this car? Where i can find stuff like that? What is their apport to the car technicly and to the team?
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anybody planning on going to some race in Europe?
Preferably Austria, Germany or Hungaroring
how about some little E60 meet there? anybody has some experience from before? I would prefer something very well organized and some great tickets not some places in the bushes around the track
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Originally Posted by Peter530i' post='257796' date='Mar 21 2006, 01:58 AM
anybody planning on going to some race in Europe?
Preferably Austria, Germany or Hungaroring
how about some little E60 meet there? anybody has some experience from before? I would prefer something very well organized and some great tickets not some places in the bushes around the track
ME TOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm going this summer to hungaroring. In june or whenever it is. I'd love to have a small e60 meet there also. Then watch the race with some e60 members...that would be a perfect day. Then some comments at the local pub....voila!!!
Going with a friend of mine...hope not the girlfriend...and another friend. So 2 cars.
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Originally Posted by Wilchwitz' post='257708' date='Mar 20 2006, 07:14 PM
I hope BMW Sauber does well this year but I am not counting on it. It is too soon to expect any better results than mid-field on a regular basis. BMW bought an average performing team when they bought Sauber. Remember, for the past few years Sauber has had Ferrari Power and could only get to the middle of the pack. They do not have a history of a consistantly high achieving team.

I was really put-off last year by Mario Theissen constantly blaming the Williams chassis when it became obvious to everyone that the problem was the BMW engine. They probably went too conservative to make the engine last two race weekends and it was no longer the most powerful in the field. Rather than admitting that they got the 2005 engine wrong, Mario kept saying that the Wiliams chassis was not good. Be a man, Mario, stop blaming others. Lets see who gets the blame this year if BMW Sauber does not improve.

In the meantime, it must be gratifying for Sir Frank and Patrick to see their Williams cars faster on track than the BMW Saubers. Renault has to be the favorites but I don't see them with a lock on the Championship yet. Both Ferrari and McLaren will improve and Honda has a shot if they can get someone in the pits who understands race strategy.

It's going to be fun.
Sorry my friend let some stuff clear, so Williams did not let BMW to develop new engine and other technics, I was very happy when the broke up. I am willing the BMW will perform better at leas killed the toyota that was already a thing to be happy about, but they should push it harder a bit to be among winners

ps. I wud kick Kliens a$$ for killing Kimi, he is the best after MS you will see that age is not only advantage, experience what counts.

PS2. who the ##### is Alonso?
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Originally Posted by Peter530i' post='257796' date='Mar 20 2006, 10:58 PM
anybody planning on going to some race in Europe?
Preferably Austria, Germany or Hungaroring
how about some little E60 meet there? anybody has some experience from before? I would prefer something very well organized and some great tickets not some places in the bushes around the track
you stil got 138 days I think I will not be home that time, but wanna try out also the track once in CZ...Tim said it was perfect.

http://www.hungaroinfo.com/formel1/tickets_all_en.htm
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Originally Posted by ats77' post='257813' date='Mar 21 2006, 02:45 AM
PS2. who the ##### is Alonso?
Yeah right...nobody <_<
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='257793' date='Mar 20 2006, 04:51 PM
Finnaly another F1 fanatic...
I agree with you on everything although about the remark of Williams vs BMW Sauber i have to say that the driver has a key role in getting the best out of the car and thus better lap times. We will see if overall williams will deliver the better car. I for one don't think so...but we'll have to wait and see.

And btw do you know what's sauber's apport to this car? Where i can find stuff like that? What is their apport to the car technicly and to the team?
It is my understanding that the chassis development and production are at the Sauber facility in Switzerland. The engine development is in Munich and the production, I believe, is in Landshut.

Don't get me wrong, I hope that BMW does really well this year but I think wins are too much to expect. As far as the contribution of the driver it is, of course, important but the whole package is what counts. It is what made MS so successful. Good car, good driver, good team and good co-ordination. (Having Ruebens running interference didn't hurt either.)

For those who are knocking Alonso, he is the real deal. Don't sell him short. He is smart, young and very fast.


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