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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:56 PM
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Well, this is a thread I never thought I'd participate in, much less start. I'm too broke now to buy a new car, I've satisfied my watch craze for now. It's still too hot to play golf. Sooooo, thought I'd pick up shootin' guns!

Been doing some preliminary research. Dropped by the Scottsdale Gun Club this morning. Gonna sign up for a basic handgun safety/use instruction. I'm scared $hitless of firearms, but with proper instruction, I think it'll be fun. I have no intention of carrying a concealed weapon, although from what I gather, it's pretty darn easy to get a permit in Arizona. This is primarily for recreation and in a distant second....god-forbid it should come to this....home/family protection.

What handguns do you have? What do you like/dislike about a particular brand? I'm pretty fixated on H&K, but Glock and Sig Sauer are certainly considerations. Open to constructive discussion about the guns themselves, NOT to a moral/philosophical debate about owning/carrying guns.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 03:59 PM
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Walther.

Mostly carrying a P99.

But for self defence a good old revolver is the best.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 04:11 PM
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When I was living in the U.S. I had a Sig Sauer P229 Two Tone and a Glock 19. Used both for recreational shooting at a gun club. Although I had a permit to carry, I never did.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 04:25 PM
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I prefer 1911's.

Since you asked...unlike car-stuff which is really personal choice, selecting a handgun for more than just "to have" has more to do than what's cool this year. Each handgun has different controls, grip angles, sights, ergonomics, etc.... Are you able to reach the magazine release? Are you left eye dominant, but shoot right handed? What's your natural point of aim? Are you comfortable with multiple safeties?

You probably can't answer the questions you need to ask yourself by standing at the sales counter. If you're serious about handguns, my advice is to seek out a knowledgeable instructor and try before you buy. Look for a range with a good selection of rental handguns and, if possible, go to the range with your instructor.

Then again, if you want the cool-guy gun of the day, look for the sales ads

Best of luck and stay safe.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by alexf9496' post='680477' date='Sep 28 2008, 07:25 PM
I prefer 1911's.

Since you asked...unlike car-stuff which is really personal choice, selecting a handgun for more than just "to have" has more to do than what's cool this year. Each handgun has different controls, grip angles, sights, ergonomics, etc.... Are you able to reach the magazine release? Are you left eye dominant, but shoot right handed? What's your natural point of aim? Are you comfortable with multiple safeties?

You probably can't answer the questions you need to ask yourself by standing at the sales counter. If you're serious about handguns, my advice is to seek out a knowledgeable instructor and try before you buy. Look for a range with a good selection of rental handguns and, if possible, go to the range with your instructor.

Then again, if you want the cool-guy gun of the day, look for the sales ads

Best of luck and stay safe.
Great advice! As I mentioned, I'm going to sign up for one-on-one instruction as a gun newb. Once I'm 'clear' to start shooting on my own, I'm gonna rent a few pieces and see what's comfortable. All that being said, I see guns as art, similar to watches and cars. So, it does have to 'look cool' too

Oh, and BTW, I've seen the reference to '1911'. What exactly does that mean??
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by bonehead' post='680480' date='Sep 28 2008, 07:30 PM
Great advice! As I mentioned, I'm going to sign up for one-on-one instruction as a gun newb. Once I'm 'clear' to start shooting on my own, I'm gonna rent a few pieces and see what's comfortable. All that being said, I see guns as art, similar to watches and cars. So, it does have to 'look cool' too

Oh, and BTW, I've seen the reference to '1911'. What exactly does that mean??
The Colt Model 1911, for example, is a .45 ACP. It's tried and true, full-size frame, and favored by US military for years. My combat arms instructor swears by his. As alex said, try various models and calibers before you buy. Also, used is not a bad way to go as many first-timers buy the "cool" gun and decide they don't like it after 50 rounds. Then you can pick it up on the cheap. 2 cents. I have a Walther PPK/S .380 in stainless steel and a Glock 19 9mm with Tritium night sights. I spent a lot of range and rental time before deciding on them at different times. Both look cool to me--one old school and one tactical. Totally different weapons, but I like the challenges of both at the range. GL with your decision.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 05:15 PM
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Originally Posted by bonehead' post='680480' date='Sep 28 2008, 05:30 PM
Oh, and BTW, I've seen the reference to '1911'. What exactly does that mean??
It's a generic term for handguns patterned after John Moses Browning's semi-automatic design, adopted by the Army in 1911 as the M1911 pistol.
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Originally Posted by alexf9496' post='680510' date='Sep 28 2008, 08:15 PM
It's a generic term for handguns patterned after John Moses Browning's semi-automatic design, adopted by the Army in 1911 as the M1911 pistol.
Just take alex's advice and you'll be fine.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 05:41 PM
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Hey Ed. Hope all's well. I think you should start out with a Desert Eagle. Look it up. You DO live in the desert.
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Old Sep 28, 2008 | 06:37 PM
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If I had to pick one gun to keep and sell the rest, I'd keep my Sig P229 .40 cal. w/ night sights. I have owned almost all of them at some point, and that is my favorite for carrying and shooting at the range.

My Kimber 1911 is a nice range gun and in-the-nightstand gun, but the 1911's are way too big to carry...the full size ones that is.

I used to be a licensed firearms dealer, fyi.
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