F10 reliability -- better info ASAP
06-08-2011, 08:01 AM
#21
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
We have an updated reliability stat for the 2011 BMW 5-Series based on owner responses through March 31, 2011.
With a reported repair rate of 62 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the F10 5-Series remains about average so far. Which isn't bad for a complex all-new luxury sedan.
We'll have further updates in August and November. The more owners participate, the better then information we can provide.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
BMW 5-Series reliability ratings and comparisons
With a reported repair rate of 62 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the F10 5-Series remains about average so far. Which isn't bad for a complex all-new luxury sedan.
We'll have further updates in August and November. The more owners participate, the better then information we can provide.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help:
BMW 5-Series reliability ratings and comparisons
06-09-2011, 10:58 AM
#22
Contributors
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 7,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: My ex-ride: EU '08 LCI 520dA. Space Grey, Sport Seats in Black Leather/Fabric Anthracite, Sport Steering Wheel, A/C with Extended Features, Hi-Fi Speakers, Cup Holders, Cruise with Braking function, Folding Rear Seats, Xenons, Park Distance Control.
According to German ADAC BMW 5-series is about the most reliable cars out there on the German roads.
See http://www.adac.de/ and hope you have some knowledge of other languages than American...
See http://www.adac.de/ and hope you have some knowledge of other languages than American...
07-23-2011, 07:36 AM
#23
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
If memory serves, the ADAC is like AAA and CAA in North America and their stats are based on the number of cars they have to tow. Newer cars hardly ever require a tow, and if they're under warranty the manufacturer often provides the service for free, so these stats are most relevant for older cars.
08-29-2011, 10:35 AM
#24
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
We have updated our car reliability stat for the 2011 BMW 5-Series based on owner responses through June 30, 2011.
With a reported repair rate of 41 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the F10 has improved in the last few months, and is still "about average" but now not far from "better than average."
We'll have further updates in November and February. The more owners participate, the better then information we can provide.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
BMW 5-Series reliability ratings and comparisons
With a reported repair rate of 41 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the F10 has improved in the last few months, and is still "about average" but now not far from "better than average."
We'll have further updates in November and February. The more owners participate, the better then information we can provide.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
BMW 5-Series reliability ratings and comparisons
09-21-2011, 09:32 PM
#25
Banned
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: USA
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It 'really possible to measure the reliability of a car that is sold maybe 6 months? I think you're too much to expect, none of the reliability of the figures were distorted historical data, which in reality does not apply to all new model with all the new line of engines. Wold for real data, you must give a couple of years.
09-22-2011, 01:59 AM
#26
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Anyway, I'd very much like to have an app developed. Haven't found the right person to help me with this yet, but hopefully soon.
09-22-2011, 11:14 AM
#27
Contributors
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Posts: 7,790
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
My Ride: My ex-ride: EU '08 LCI 520dA. Space Grey, Sport Seats in Black Leather/Fabric Anthracite, Sport Steering Wheel, A/C with Extended Features, Hi-Fi Speakers, Cup Holders, Cruise with Braking function, Folding Rear Seats, Xenons, Park Distance Control.
"When there are no repairs, they simply report an approximate odometer reading four times a year..."
No problems at 15 months (after the 2,000 km) breake in period. Sorry
No problems at 15 months (after the 2,000 km) breake in period. Sorry
10-24-2011, 08:29 AM
#28
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
We have an updated reliability stat for the 2011 BMW 5-Series based on owner responses through June 30, 2011.
With a reported repair rate of 41 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the F10 has improved in the last few months, and is still "about average" but now not far from "better than average."
We'll have further updates in November and February. The more owners participate, the better then information we can provide.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
BMW 5-Series reliability ratings and comparisons
With a reported repair rate of 41 repair trips per 100 cars per year, the F10 has improved in the last few months, and is still "about average" but now not far from "better than average."
We'll have further updates in November and February. The more owners participate, the better then information we can provide.
To see how competitors compare, and to sign up to help improve this information:
BMW 5-Series reliability ratings and comparisons
10-24-2011, 08:38 AM
#29
Contributors
Join Date: May 2009
Location: SoCal
Posts: 10,496
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes
on
2 Posts
My Ride: 2008 550I LOADED, all options except HUD and NV
This has to be one of the dumbest threads ever. The F10 is new, how accurate is reliability data? There's a reason why legitimate new car quality raters (like JD Powers) use the "Initial Quality" rating to quantify buyer satisfaction and reliability with a BIG asterisk noting that reliability data on an entirely new model is subjective at best. It will take a few years to start getting hard numbers, this isn't the kind of thing you can get "the scoop" on. All numbers at this point are bullshit numbers.
10-24-2011, 08:54 AM
#30
Members
Thread Starter
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 140
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This has to be one of the dumbest threads ever. The F10 is new, how accurate is reliability data? There's a reason why legitimate new car quality raters (like JD Powers) use the "Initial Quality" rating to quantify buyer satisfaction and reliability with a BIG asterisk noting that reliability data on an entirely new model is subjective at best. It will take a few years to start getting hard numbers, this isn't the kind of thing you can get "the scoop" on. All numbers at this point are bullshit numbers.
J.D. Power most emphasizes the first 90 days of ownership, claiming that this predicts long-term reliability. They collect data at only one other point, the third year of ownership. Nothing at all on months 4-24 or 37+.
Consumer Reports routinely posts results based on just a few months or even a few weeks of ownership, but never explicitly states this, much less post a asterisk and/or warning about the limitations of their results.
Only TrueDelta explicitly posts sample sizes, the average odometer reading, the average number of months of data per car, and all reported repair descriptions, so you can tell what the reliability stats mean.