The F10 5 Series IS your daddy's 7 Series
09-30-2010, 02:09 PM
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In my mind, there's no need to defend the F10. It's a great car but like all cars, it won't please everyone all of the time... 
09-30-2010, 02:40 PM
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09-30-2010, 02:50 PM
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I couldn't agree more with what you're saying. The F10 is a great car, will it have things that are quirks and owners won't like? Sure, every car does. Right now the only thing keeping me from completely loving the F10 is the knowledge that they ok'd production of the 6er GT coupe concept - and THAT car is frggin HAWT 
09-30-2010, 03:18 PM
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09-30-2010, 05:50 PM
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Great analysis. I have been saying to those that would listen that the F10 is a small 7er. Last night I sat in a 7er. the F10 is very, very close to a 2010 7er.
09-30-2010, 06:09 PM
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....But that's fine. To each his own. Competition has never been better and there are so many wonderful cars out there to satisfy each and every want and need.
09-30-2010, 07:37 PM
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Well, it might be a good analysis and for guys like you, me, Rudy and Ricracing, the F10 being so close to a 7er was obviously not a bad thing since we all got one......but for the rest of the community (esp. the diehard E60 owners), being the 'lil 7 it seems is not a good thing and their comments over the last few months obviously reflect that. Who knows what the next couple years will bring. Some guys might slowly come around and come to love the F10 like they did with the E60, and others might not and move on to something else.
....But that's fine. To each his own. Competition has never been better and there are so many wonderful cars out there to satisfy each and every want and need.
....But that's fine. To each his own. Competition has never been better and there are so many wonderful cars out there to satisfy each and every want and need.
But, it's a little 7 that outperforms it's predecessor (talking E60 550i to F10 550i), has a significantly higher ceiling for tuning, and yes it's bigger and heavier. It gets much murkier when you discuss 535i E60 to F10, never really liked either and never really thought the N55 was a good match for the F10.
09-30-2010, 07:48 PM
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09-30-2010, 08:28 PM
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E39 2002 540i
Kerb weight 1705 kg 3759 lb
E60 2005 550i
Kerb weight 1735 kg 3825 lb
F10 2011 550i
Kerb weight 4376lbs
In looking at the numbers, the E39 to E60 was a rather smooth transition to a larger class vehicle, but at the same time, retained its weight with minimal gains (66lb increase) due to the larger dimensions.
But, when we look at the E60 to F10, the numbers show a stark contrast for a car in the same class/segment...More than 3inches in wheelbase, more than 550lbs heavier!
E38 '98 740i
Kerb weight 1885 kg 4156 lb
E65 2001 745i
Kerb weight 1945 kg 4288 lb
2010 E90 335i
Kerb weight 1625 kg 3583 lb
Kerb weight 1705 kg 3759 lb
E60 2005 550i
Kerb weight 1735 kg 3825 lb
F10 2011 550i
Kerb weight 4376lbs
In looking at the numbers, the E39 to E60 was a rather smooth transition to a larger class vehicle, but at the same time, retained its weight with minimal gains (66lb increase) due to the larger dimensions.
But, when we look at the E60 to F10, the numbers show a stark contrast for a car in the same class/segment...More than 3inches in wheelbase, more than 550lbs heavier!
E38 '98 740i
Kerb weight 1885 kg 4156 lb
E65 2001 745i
Kerb weight 1945 kg 4288 lb
2010 E90 335i
Kerb weight 1625 kg 3583 lb
10-01-2010, 12:46 AM
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ie a car with even closer physical dimensions to a E39 would be a E39 