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Old 11-18-2009, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rsyed' post='1056591' date='Nov 17 2009, 10:31 AM
something as beautiful as this can only be austria

Great looking car. Nice and simple - just OEM... The way to go....
Well said. We saw amazing and unbelievable places this summer in Austria. I cannot wait to do a further west-east tour of the country!
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='1057583' date='Nov 18 2009, 08:29 PM
Well said. We saw amazing and unbelievable places this summer in Austria. I cannot wait to do a further west-east tour of the country!
next time you head to this beautiful country, let me know. i can point out some beautiful drives...
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Originally Posted by rsyed' post='1058160' date='Nov 19 2009, 09:43 AM
next time you head to this beautiful country, let me know. i can point out some beautiful drives...
Cool, thanks! And next summer, we have to get over to Wien to visit a friend. Plus I want to take my wife to Melk.
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='1058268' date='Nov 19 2009, 03:11 PM
Plus I want to take my wife to Melk.
Good choice! You'll love it!
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What's it like driving a rear wheel car with all that power on snow and ice in Finland ? How does the E61 handle.

My German colleagues always prefer front-wheel drive cars because of the handling in snow and ice - even on winter tyres.

Generally in Finland and Scandinavia, do you guys prefer rear-wheel drive , givnen your severe winters and snow etc - would be very interested to know if it is more difficult or Scandanvians prefer front-wheel drive like Germans.
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Originally Posted by higher' post='1075152' date='Dec 17 2009, 03:00 PM
What's it like driving a rear wheel car with all that power on snow and ice in Finland ? How does the E61 handle.

My German colleagues always prefer front-wheel drive cars because of the handling in snow and ice - even on winter tyres.

Generally in Finland and Scandinavia, do you guys prefer rear-wheel drive , givnen your severe winters and snow etc - would be very interested to know if it is more difficult or Scandanvians prefer front-wheel drive like Germans.
Most cars here are FWDs, but there are also lots of RWDs, mostly older BMWs and Volvos. E60/61 handles our winters very well, no problems.
Winter is not a problem, as we are forced to learn to drive in icy and snowy conditions or then you have to learn to live without a car for almost half a year.
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For the 20+ years that I have lived and driven in Finland, I have only ever had a RWD car - granted, my father-in-law's ZETOR tractor was AWD.

So, I guess that I can't have an opinion about RWD vs FWD in the winter. That said, I have not had a single issue with any of the four BMW vehicles that I have had for the last 10 years of "winter" driving.
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Originally Posted by higher' post='1075152' date='Dec 17 2009, 02:00 PM
What's it like driving a rear wheel car with all that power on snow and ice in Finland ? How does the E61 handle.

My German colleagues always prefer front-wheel drive cars because of the handling in snow and ice - even on winter tyres.

Generally in Finland and Scandinavia, do you guys prefer rear-wheel drive , givnen your severe winters and snow etc - would be very interested to know if it is more difficult or Scandanvians prefer front-wheel drive like Germans.
I lived in Germany the previous 9 years and also heard the same from colleagues/friends time and time again. They seemed to be much more cautious about this than those in the Nordics.
The previous 4 years I have been doing approx 20000-25000km on 18" or 19" winter set-ups, including skiiing trips to Austria. So I think it comes down to how well prepared the roads are where you drive and the quality of the surfaces. I am running 275 Dunlop Wintersport on the rear at the moment and am (**touch wood**) currently able to make it through the snow here in Copenhagen.
Good luck with your choice.


ps. there's a reason the Nordic countries are good at rallying... i.e. driving side ways and slippery surfaces
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Originally Posted by rsyed' post='1058160' date='Nov 19 2009, 08:43 AM
next time you head to this beautiful country, let me know. i can point out some beautiful drives...
Hey rsyed, do you really drive E60 again? It looks like you went crazy and got back to the best car format
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Originally Posted by Patrick E61' post='741184
Thank you!

If by group buy, you mean you and me, lets do it!

I have finally made a decision on summer wheels and tires (thanks to all of the posts here): M172 staggered and ContiSportContact 3 tires. Wheels from Germany, and tires from somewhere local.

And let me know if there is ever a Finnish "group" get together!
I you are really interested in economising on your future setup I have a pair of 9.5J 172s for sale.

I must confess, however, that I really like your car as it is.

Good luck


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