To buy or not to buy a 535xiT
10-12-2010, 08:28 PM
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Hello BW535xiT...
Are the list of parts only needed because you have LCI model?
Will a pre-LCI car need less parts?
Thank you!
Are the list of parts only needed because you have LCI model?
Will a pre-LCI car need less parts?
Thank you!
Here is the *REAL* OEM Aero kit breakdown. Everywhere will advertise the basic kit then get you with the additional parts once you're hooked 
1 51710429412 M-Aero kit $1,409.60 $1,409.60 (side skirts, F&R bumper, etc)
1 66546962500 Bracket, night vision camera $83.90 $83.90
2 66316774678 Bracket for sensor, SRR $3.86 $7.72
1 66316777310 Bracket for sensor, LRR $10.94 $10.94
4 66200306567 Ultrasonic-sensor CODE UNI/MET $168.95 $675.80
4 66200309540 Ultrasonic-sensor CODE UNI/MET $168.95 $675.80
2 61120306586 Wiring harness, adapter $3.20 $6.40
1 61120416440 Extension cable $15.02 $15.02
1 61126928362 Set of cables, front bumper $40.42 $40.42
1 61126928366 Set of cables, rear bumper $40.42 $40.42
1 61129122282 Wiring set $71.84 $71.84
1 51718040807 Air duct front bottom M $57.34 $57.34
1 51718041999 Air duct front left M $53.54 $53.54
1 51718042000 Air duct front right M $53.54 $53.54
1 51117033705 Support, side panel front left $9.62 $9.62
1 51117033706 Support, side panel front right $9.62 $9.62
1 51117148585 Carrier, bumper front $272.34 $272.34
1 51117896591 Shock absorber front left M $27.56 $27.56
1 51117896592 Shock absorber front right M $27.56 $27.56
$2,139.38 in additional parts
$3,548.98 TOTAL
(This is Tischer's pricing, BTW)
Installation in Northern VA at a very high end body shop cost me about $2000. This is a beautiful kit and there were reportedly no gotchas during installation, but you need to be prepared to shell out some unexpected coin for it.
I'm in to mine for just over $5,500 including ALL parts, shipping, paint and install. Well worth it - very sharp looking.
I have heard mixed reports on Dinan's ECU flash upgrades. One thing to consider is that BMW will NOT cover your vehicle once the Dinan software is installed. Dinan covers what they void on the BMW warranty, so you are essentially purchasing an external Dinan warranty to cover your Dinan software.
For now I think I will stick with a stock setup to see if any engine or HPFP problems rear their ugly heads. Once I do take the plunge, I'm leaning toward the Juicebox 3 ($579) http://www.burgertuning.com/jb3.htm. Partial reasoning is that if the car goes in for service you can initialize Map 0 and set your car back to stock, avoiding detection of any aftermarket tuning and subsequent voiding of your factory warranty
Best of luck!
1 51710429412 M-Aero kit $1,409.60 $1,409.60 (side skirts, F&R bumper, etc)
1 66546962500 Bracket, night vision camera $83.90 $83.90
2 66316774678 Bracket for sensor, SRR $3.86 $7.72
1 66316777310 Bracket for sensor, LRR $10.94 $10.94
4 66200306567 Ultrasonic-sensor CODE UNI/MET $168.95 $675.80
4 66200309540 Ultrasonic-sensor CODE UNI/MET $168.95 $675.80
2 61120306586 Wiring harness, adapter $3.20 $6.40
1 61120416440 Extension cable $15.02 $15.02
1 61126928362 Set of cables, front bumper $40.42 $40.42
1 61126928366 Set of cables, rear bumper $40.42 $40.42
1 61129122282 Wiring set $71.84 $71.84
1 51718040807 Air duct front bottom M $57.34 $57.34
1 51718041999 Air duct front left M $53.54 $53.54
1 51718042000 Air duct front right M $53.54 $53.54
1 51117033705 Support, side panel front left $9.62 $9.62
1 51117033706 Support, side panel front right $9.62 $9.62
1 51117148585 Carrier, bumper front $272.34 $272.34
1 51117896591 Shock absorber front left M $27.56 $27.56
1 51117896592 Shock absorber front right M $27.56 $27.56
$2,139.38 in additional parts
$3,548.98 TOTAL
(This is Tischer's pricing, BTW)
Installation in Northern VA at a very high end body shop cost me about $2000. This is a beautiful kit and there were reportedly no gotchas during installation, but you need to be prepared to shell out some unexpected coin for it.
I'm in to mine for just over $5,500 including ALL parts, shipping, paint and install. Well worth it - very sharp looking.
I have heard mixed reports on Dinan's ECU flash upgrades. One thing to consider is that BMW will NOT cover your vehicle once the Dinan software is installed. Dinan covers what they void on the BMW warranty, so you are essentially purchasing an external Dinan warranty to cover your Dinan software.
For now I think I will stick with a stock setup to see if any engine or HPFP problems rear their ugly heads. Once I do take the plunge, I'm leaning toward the Juicebox 3 ($579) http://www.burgertuning.com/jb3.htm. Partial reasoning is that if the car goes in for service you can initialize Map 0 and set your car back to stock, avoiding detection of any aftermarket tuning and subsequent voiding of your factory warranty
Best of luck!
10-12-2010, 08:40 PM
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That's an interesting question. I'd contact Anthony at Bekkers.com to see what advice he can offer.
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10-15-2010, 04:44 AM
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Jon,
Took delivery of my 535Xi wagon Feb 2008, installed Dinan s/w Apr 2008. Have 32K on now, still under warranty and it is a flipping blast!
If possible, try to find a Dinan shop located in a BMW dealer. I have 4 BMW dealers in NJ within 25 miles, but drive 50 to the one who handles Dinan. If there are any issues, they get worked out much better. My "local" BMW dealer put in writing (per the regional BMW service rep) that if I reinstalled the Dinan s/w it would void the warranty. Steven Dinan had a field day with that!
MY HPFP was replaced May 2010 after 3 rounds and 6 months of fault codes and reprograming the car 8 times (4 BMW,4 Dinan) at no charge - just several days of hassle. If you have Dinan s/w on the car, ANYTIME you take it to BMW for service tell then NOT to reporgram the car if at all possible. I would bet there will be future problems with the HPFP and the turbo wastegate - but the HPFP is under warranty and the car is so much fun, I'll take the chance.
Do not bother buying a certified car if you plan on installing the Dinan s/w since that will void the certfication (so I have been told by Dinan)
GO for it!
Took delivery of my 535Xi wagon Feb 2008, installed Dinan s/w Apr 2008. Have 32K on now, still under warranty and it is a flipping blast!
If possible, try to find a Dinan shop located in a BMW dealer. I have 4 BMW dealers in NJ within 25 miles, but drive 50 to the one who handles Dinan. If there are any issues, they get worked out much better. My "local" BMW dealer put in writing (per the regional BMW service rep) that if I reinstalled the Dinan s/w it would void the warranty. Steven Dinan had a field day with that!
MY HPFP was replaced May 2010 after 3 rounds and 6 months of fault codes and reprograming the car 8 times (4 BMW,4 Dinan) at no charge - just several days of hassle. If you have Dinan s/w on the car, ANYTIME you take it to BMW for service tell then NOT to reporgram the car if at all possible. I would bet there will be future problems with the HPFP and the turbo wastegate - but the HPFP is under warranty and the car is so much fun, I'll take the chance.
Do not bother buying a certified car if you plan on installing the Dinan s/w since that will void the certfication (so I have been told by Dinan)
GO for it!
10-15-2010, 04:50 AM
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Sounds like my experience exactly although fixed my HPFP problem on the first go round. I think BMWNA is getting a little touchy on the subject as there is a class action law suit against them for this problem. Really don't understand why as I'm pretty certain that all the cars with the problem would still be under factory warranty. YMMV
10-16-2010, 03:09 AM
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Sounds like my experience exactly although fixed my HPFP problem on the first go round. I think BMWNA is getting a little touchy on the subject as there is a class action law suit against them for this problem. Really don't understand why as I'm pretty certain that all the cars with the problem would still be under factory warranty. YMMV
10-23-2010, 03:02 PM
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I installed Dinan Stage II S/W in my 535XiT in April 08 1 month after I picked it up new. The *only* reason I put Dinan s/w on a new $60K car was that is would NOT void the factory warranty and their close relationship with BMW - which no other s/w company has.
You are absolutely wrong in your statement that "BMW will NOT cover your vehicle once the Dinan software is installed." If you heard this from your dealer, he is wrong and you should get it in writing and send to Steve Dinan - when it happened to me once, I did get it in writing and Steve contacted BMW directly. I have never paid anything out of my pocket for warranty repairs - including the HPFP.
I now go to a BMW dealer that sells and installs Dinan products - there is ablosutely no issue with this dealer covering anything under the 4 year, 50,000 mile BMW factory warranty.
You are absolutely wrong in your statement that "BMW will NOT cover your vehicle once the Dinan software is installed." If you heard this from your dealer, he is wrong and you should get it in writing and send to Steve Dinan - when it happened to me once, I did get it in writing and Steve contacted BMW directly. I have never paid anything out of my pocket for warranty repairs - including the HPFP.
I now go to a BMW dealer that sells and installs Dinan products - there is ablosutely no issue with this dealer covering anything under the 4 year, 50,000 mile BMW factory warranty.
10-23-2010, 06:05 PM
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I installed Dinan Stage II S/W in my 535XiT in April 08 1 month after I picked it up new. The *only* reason I put Dinan s/w on a new $60K car was that is would NOT void the factory warranty and their close relationship with BMW - which no other s/w company has.
You are absolutely wrong in your statement that "BMW will NOT cover your vehicle once the Dinan software is installed." If you heard this from your dealer, he is wrong and you should get it in writing and send to Steve Dinan - when it happened to me once, I did get it in writing and Steve contacted BMW directly. I have never paid anything out of my pocket for warranty repairs - including the HPFP.
I now go to a BMW dealer that sells and installs Dinan products - there is ablosutely no issue with this dealer covering anything under the 4 year, 50,000 mile BMW factory warranty.
You are absolutely wrong in your statement that "BMW will NOT cover your vehicle once the Dinan software is installed." If you heard this from your dealer, he is wrong and you should get it in writing and send to Steve Dinan - when it happened to me once, I did get it in writing and Steve contacted BMW directly. I have never paid anything out of my pocket for warranty repairs - including the HPFP.
I now go to a BMW dealer that sells and installs Dinan products - there is ablosutely no issue with this dealer covering anything under the 4 year, 50,000 mile BMW factory warranty.
The BMW center and technicians may perform the Dinan work, but BMWNA will not cover any problems introduced by Dinan software. Dinan will cover the gap left and fix anything they break. It's a seamless process handled on the back end that the customer probaby isn't even aware of - their car is just fixed on site. At least that's how they explained it to me at Dinan's Mountain View, CA shop a few years ago.
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