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01-10-2006, 05:56 PM
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Evo is a respected and respectable publication. Just because you do or don't like their conclusion isn't grounds for accusing them of being on the take. FWIW I've yet to see a review of the Ford GT that didn't make the comment that it is indeed an "everyday supercar" (if that isn't an oxymoron), the GT has beaten Ferraris in many tests. There's no shame whatsoever in the M5 losing out to the Ford GT, and tests like this typically don't pay regard to price/value...
There were few, if any, test numbers in the evo piece. It was virtually totally subjective. But, that is fine to me. I like to hear the opinions and about the rank-order voting of seasoned auto intimates.
Originally Posted by Znod' post='222298' date='Jan 10 2006, 04:33 PM
Low end torque, high end torque, damn, I'll be luck to own anything close it it. 
All I have is a 545i, and it's probably nothing compared to the E55 or M5. So I say to all:
Duke it out. I'm on the sidelines.
You need your supercharger. I'll duke it out with them with my old Z06.
As for the mags and their "opinion," I read for entertainment because somebody always works for somebody when it comes down to "best of XXX."
Yep, someone always is taking, and someone always is buying the takers. Not me and you and some others though.
All I have is a 545i, and it's probably nothing compared to the E55 or M5. So I say to all:Duke it out. I'm on the sidelines.
You need your supercharger. I'll duke it out with them with my old Z06.
As for the mags and their "opinion," I read for entertainment because somebody always works for somebody when it comes down to "best of XXX."
Yep, someone always is taking, and someone always is buying the takers. Not me and you and some others though.
Bang for the buck is the new Z06. I also like the bang for the buck tests/opinions. Well, on the bang for the buck issue you might come out ahead or behind. It might depend on the quality of the after-market warranty of the manufacturer.
Hopefully, you and will still be around when I get the supercharger because right now, both money and availability are two issues
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Who knows who will be around, but I hope so too. I keep being intriqued by the idea of a stripper manual-shift M5. If someone would sponsor me and guarantee to cover all racing breakage, tire costs, and failure of BMW to do warranty work costs, then I'd take it to the strip and learn to dust off some E55's. I still would not care for the lowish torque on the street, but I could make an exception under these conditions. OK, so that's a fantasy. I would no doubt opt for a new Z06 over a manual-shift M5 no matter how I used the car.
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I perceive my 550i as having a ton of torque because I came from an e46 M3. I have a new friend with an SL65AMG, and I'm not too exited about testing that car because the >700 ft/lbs may, excuse me would, alter my notion that the 550 has a lot of torque.
01-11-2006, 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by darkside' post='222672' date='Jan 11 2006, 09:22 AM
I perceive my 550i as having a ton of torque because I came from an e46 M3. I have a new friend with an SL65AMG, and I'm not too exited about testing that car because the >700 ft/lbs may, excuse me would, alter my notion that the 550 has a lot of torque.
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My sure you put lots of cement (glue) on the rear less a tap on the pedal might make a figure 8.
The new Z06 rules in the bang for the buck category for sure in anybody's book.
01-11-2006, 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by darkside' post='222672' date='Jan 11 2006, 09:22 AM
I perceive my 550i as having a ton of torque because I came from an e46 M3. I have a new friend with an SL65AMG, and I'm not too exited about testing that car because the >700 ft/lbs may, excuse me would, alter my notion that the 550 has a lot of torque.
The new Z06 rules in the bang for the buck category for sure in anybody's book.
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The new one's don't really exist since I have not yet seen one on the street. I am sure those that have been sold have been put in sealed vacuum containers. There are so many incredible cars coming out. I am going to be interested to see how my old Z06 model survives the battles.
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Originally Posted by darkside' post='221093' date='Jan 8 2006, 04:51 PM
How much torque do you need? I finally finished the breakin of my 550i and the 360 ft/lbs of torque is incredible. My e46 M3 was fast, but it didn't plaster me to the back of my seat from a full throttle acceleration the way the 550 does.
What did you do for breakin if I may ask. Anything in particular? Sorry, off topic question...
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Drove the SL65AMG this morning. It is a beast! Unfortunately the pavement was not dry so it was hard keeping the wheels planted, but I got the point. I have not driven an M5, but suspect I would prefer it to the SL. It felt like a heavy car, not the feeling I am used to with my 550 or the e46 M3.
01-13-2006, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by darkside' post='222672' date='Jan 11 2006, 09:22 AM
I perceive my 550i as having a ton of torque because I came from an e46 M3. I have a new friend with an SL65AMG, and I'm not too exited about testing that car because the >700 ft/lbs may, excuse me would, alter my notion that the 550 has a lot of torque.
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OK, so you are not too tainted since the roads were wet. Your detox will be easy. Let us know if you ever drive in on dry roads. Why is there a towing sign next to it.
And, what is that funny looking car to its right.
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Originally Posted by Znod' post='222808' date='Jan 11 2006, 01:24 PM
[quote name='darkside' post='222672' date='Jan 11 2006, 09:22 AM']
I perceive my 550i as having a ton of torque because I came from an e46 M3. I have a new friend with an SL65AMG, and I'm not too exited about testing that car because the >700 ft/lbs may, excuse me would, alter my notion that the 550 has a lot of torque.
I perceive my 550i as having a ton of torque because I came from an e46 M3. I have a new friend with an SL65AMG, and I'm not too exited about testing that car because the >700 ft/lbs may, excuse me would, alter my notion that the 550 has a lot of torque.
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OK, so you are not too tainted since the roads were wet. Your detox will be easy. Let us know if you ever drive in on dry roads. Why is there a towing sign next to it.
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The towing sign is to prevent people from parking in my driveway. That other car is the one I love.
01-13-2006, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by darkside' post='223857' date='Jan 13 2006, 03:03 PM
The towing sign is to prevent people from parking in my driveway. That other car is the one I love.