znod

I think that would be true, but can't swear it is so. But, here is the kind of thing that at least sometimes is said about conditions or other factors causing estimation--from parts of the list I did not post.

7:20* -- Opel Astra DTM V8 Coupe, set-up for 24hrs race (sport auto 2003) *estimated
7:40* -- Porsche Carrera GT, *estimated time on cold and partially wet track (2003) HVS

znod

Here it is. I found it when I looked back at the list.

8:50* -- Mercedes Benz E55 AMG (2000)

I don't know what the * means for sure; but, generally, there is no * note except when the time is estimated for some reason.

Bimmer32

BeterMakeWay was doing what you call in scientific terms, "scrutinizing the data."

Znod, what about the Enzo and the Bugatti Veryon? I'd like to know if they're worth the money.

znod

I don't like that twistie stuff; I might fall off the road. And, there apparently are no confirmed Ring results for the two you mention. Here's how cars are supposed to be ranked--a law of the universe--and written on a stone table. These are the cars that count. Yes, the Enzo is one of them. I have no data on the Bug.

Saleen S7 Twin Turbo CD 4/06 3.4 10.9 140.00
Mosler MT900S CD 4/06 3.10 11.00 135.00
Ferrari Enzo MT 10/04 3.40 11.00 133.90
Ferrari Enzo RT 7/03 3.30 11.10 133.00
Porsche 911 Carerra GT MT 10/04 3.60 11.10 133.40
Ferrari Enzo CD 7/03 3.30 11.20 136.00
Porsche 911 Carerra GT CD 6/04 3.50 11.20 132.00
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 MT 11/05 3.50 11.50 127.10
Mercedes SLR5 McLaren RT 7/05 3.50 11.50 126.10
Ford GT CD 1/04 3.30 11.60
McLaren F1 RT 12/97 3.40 11.60 125.00
Ford GT MT 6/05 3.60 11.60 126.20
Mercedes SLR5 McLaren MT 1/05 3.60 11.60 127.20
Mercedes SLR5 McLaren CD 1/05 3.60 11.60 125.00
Ferrari F430 RT 1/05 3.50 11.70 120.10
Ferrari F430 CD 1/05 3.50 11.70 123.00
Ferrari F430 RT 12/05 3.50 11.70 120.10
Lamborghini Murcielago MT 6/03 3.50 11.70 122.60
Ford GT RT 12/05 3.60 11.70 125.80
Ferrari F430 F1 MT 6/05 3.70 11.70 122.80
Dodge Viper SRT-10 MT 1/04 3.90 11.77 123.63
Ford GT MT 1/04 3.60 11.78 124.31
Chevrolet Corvette C6 Z06 CD 12/05 3.40 11.80 125.00
Dodge Viper SRT-10 MT 6/03 3.90 11.80 123.60
Mercedes SL600 CD 3/04 3.60 11.90 120.00
Mercedes SL65 AMG CD 1/05 3.80 11.90 123.00
Znod's C5 Z06 Pro RR 3.77 11.944 118.646

guffit

Hi,

just to clear things up a bit, the SL 55 time of 8:06 was achieved with a derestricted SL 55. The restricted SL 55 made the lap in 8:12. The M6 with 8:09 was restricted as well and thus faster than the SL. Taking the SL 55's delta of 6 seconds achieved by derestriction as a measure, a derestricted M6 should be close to 8 minutes, which is a fantastic time for a 1800kg GT.

znod

Thanks. And, yes, as mentioned above, BMW engineers estimated 8 minutes for an unrestricted M6. Where did you get the additional info about the SL 55? Is there a good source of Ring info on the Web to your knowledge?

0700700

sl55 amg is 1955kg , so props to mb for the time achieved

great find though that puts a perspective on things ... so m6 *should* just about be quicker

do not forget that the when the sl55 is restricted it can only achieve 250km... not 1km more, whereas
the m5/m6 in P500 mode are restricted at 275km/h. I wrote about this 2 months ago, and this has
been documented by the technicians at DMS. So i would expect the m6 time to drop by 3-4 seconds

BetterMakeWay

Really? great info...
I hate to say it to all...told u! Even by speculating i was closer to the truth...again. Coincidence? Yeah right...

0700700

Coincidence? Yeah right...

znod

I don't get it. Post #1 says that BMW engineers expect about 8 minutes for the M6 if unrestricted.