M5 vs RS6
09-10-2007, 12:17 AM
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Looking at the new RS6 data awesome power at 580ps but huge weight too 2025 kg. They quote 0-200 km/h at 14.9 secs. What is the M5 time for the same run, I thought I've seen it do it faster in the reviews.
09-10-2007, 03:02 AM
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Originally Posted by E60BEEMER' post='467827' date='Sep 10 2007, 06:45 AM
...im sure the RS6 will be on top, but b how much?
Numbers from a few mags:
auto zeitung 26/2004
0 - 100 km/h 4,4 s
0 - 200 km/h 13,9 s
sport auto 12/2004
0 - 100 km/h 4,5 s
0 - 200 km/h 13,8 s
sport auto 11/2005
0 - 100 km/h 4,4 s
0 - 200 km/h 14,1 s
Autobild 2005
0 - 100 km/h 4,7 s
0 - 200 km/h 13,5 s
Car&Driver 2005
0-60 mph 4.2
0-100 mph 9.4
0-150 mph 20.7
Road&Track 2005
0-60 mph 4.1
0-120 mph 13.3
09-10-2007, 04:49 AM
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Thats pretty incredible! Even though the M5 was the first of these cars (E63, RS6) its still kicks butt. The RS6 really ought to be faster with that amount of hp. It would be interesting if it handles the twisty stuff like the RS4. The Merc 55 cars still remain the closest competitor to the M5 for a straight line drag race. However, I will reserve final judgement until some real life figures come out. Maybe Audi are being shy.
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Originally Posted by lovemy520d' post='467962' date='Sep 10 2007, 09:22 PM
could be,?
i think the rs6 will be the faster then the E63 and M5
await some amateur utube vids to come
i think the rs6 will be the faster then the E63 and M5
await some amateur utube vids to come
Ahaha...here we find the understatement!
What do you mean faster? Faster 0-100km/h? Faster 0-200km/h? Faster 80-120km/h? Faster 100-200km/h? Faster in 1/4? Faster on twisties? .etc etc etc..............
09-10-2007, 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by sapkan' post='467809' date='Sep 10 2007, 02:17 AM
Looking at the new RS6 data awesome power at 580ps but huge weight too 2025 kg. They quote 0-200 km/h at 14.9 secs. What is the M5 time for the same run, I thought I've seen it do it faster in the reviews.
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Originally Posted by wolverine' post='467965' date='Sep 10 2007, 09:26 PM
That's way heavy, and with an extra 5% drivetrain loss (about 30 hp more lost than the M5), all of a sudden the 580ps just doesn't do it against the lighter M5. Also the weight will be a killer on the track.
1st real and valid point.
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Originally Posted by BetterMakeWay' post='467966' date='Sep 10 2007, 11:27 AM
1st real and valid point.The M5 itself is no lightweight. It's also over 4000lbs (4012 lbs per BMW USA).
The weight quoted on this thread for the RS6 has been the weight for the RS6 Avant, not the sedan (the RS6 Avant was just confirmed on 9/5 and the weight you see here was lifted from Audi's press release). The sedan should be 200 to 250 lbs less than the Avant (which is about the same difference between the M5 sedan and M5 Touring). The sedan is lighter, like the M5, the RS6 also makes extensive use of aluminum to control weight.
So - we're talking maybe 175lbs or less difference between the M5 sedan and the RS6 sedan and (depending on whom you believe) from 70 to 100bhp extra in the RS6, with significantly greater torque.
Should you wish to do so, the RS6 will be very easy to mod. In fact, an RS6 Plus (effectively modded at the factory, and likely pushing from 630 to 650 bhp) is also scheduled for release.
Both great cars, but you have to suspect that, even in stock form, the RS6 is going to be quicker. As for driveline loss and the impact of the additional weight, that's much less of an issue. Even the "regular" S6 was recording lap times close to the M5 in the comparion tests earlier this year and actually recorded better lateral grip on the skidpad tests.