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Old 10-25-2009, 03:58 PM
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there's no way even a heavily modded N54 engine can keep up with the M5 in the triple digit range. A M3 STOCK vs a modded N54 would be closer but even then it would only be able to keep up until 90 - 100 at best. After that the m3 would walk the N54 hard.

The jb3 stock vs Jb+ stock the dyno number are very similar. MonsterJ34 have you driven or owned a n54 with jb+ or Jb3? if not check the dyno's below. Both are very similar when the vehicles are stock. the jb3 has a greater tuning capabilities whereas the jb+ puts down decent amount of power but has less room for modding.

jb+ Dyno http://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=350130

Jb3 Dyno http://www.n54tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1515
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Originally Posted by dbae1978' post='1040270' date='Oct 25 2009, 04:58 PM
there's no way even a heavily modded N54 engine can keep up with the M5 in the triple digit range. A M3 STOCK vs a modded N54 would be closer but even then it would only be able to keep up until 90 - 100 at best. After that the m3 would walk the N54 hard.
Here is a pretty good modded 335i vs stock M3, from the last M5board meet. (up to ~160mph)

Towards the end, you can see the M3 starting to pull back up. The M3 just dosn't have the same beastly power up top as the M5.


M3 really wakes up with some bolt-on mods, especially the DCT.

vs. modded M5 -
vs. CLK63 Black Series -
vs. CTS-V -


For fun, Evosport C63 vs. M6 -
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Just thought you guys should know that the 335 was running medium boost on his JB+ due to the hot weather conditions here. He will wait till the weather cools in Dec/Jan before taking it up a notch.

Overall, I am very very impressed with his car.

The question still remains though... can he take on a Camaro SS?
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Originally Posted by JetBlack5OC' post='1040470' date='Oct 25 2009, 11:34 PM
Here is a pretty good modded 335i vs stock M3, from the last M5board meet. (up to ~160mph)

Towards the end, you can see the M3 starting to pull back up. The M3 just dosn't have the same beastly power up top as the M5.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-tsQLbu5_c...player_embedded


M3 really wakes up with some bolt-on mods, especially the DCT.

vs. modded M5 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NI0UycgReIA...player_embedded
vs. CLK63 Black Series - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx9dZrmdxOA...player_embedded
vs. CTS-V - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aV9ZbrxXQ4...player_embedded


For fun, Evosport C63 vs. M6 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWg1-EUr0tY...player_embedded
The M3 did surprisingly well against those other cars. Who's RPI Stage 1 car was that?
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lol once the window on the m5 goes up... it goes faster lol Coincedence?!?! i think nOt!
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Originally Posted by dbae1978' post='1039835' date='Oct 25 2009, 06:53 AM
Gene did you hear the 335 go into limp mode during race 2?
That was not LIMP MODE my friend... that is the sound all Gulf Spec BMW's make when you hit "our" speed limit warning of 120 km/h.
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If I drove an M5, I would NEVER take it out of P500 mode!!
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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer' post='1039866' date='Oct 25 2009, 12:49 AM
I didn't realize the first race was in P400. Scared the hell out of me.
Haha me niether.. P500 RULES!
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Originally Posted by flyingpuck' post='1040727' date='Oct 26 2009, 02:30 PM
If I drove an M5, I would NEVER take it out of P500 mode!!
WERD!
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Originally Posted by melimel' post='1040767' date='Oct 26 2009, 03:34 PM
WERD!
Double werd! The whole point of the M5 is to dominate. There is no practical reason to buy a M5. The reason is emotional -- to kick ass on the road or at least, to know that few if any sedans can challenge you.

If you drive the M5 all day in P400, dump it and get the 550 -- similar performance, more off the line torque and much better fuel economy. M5 is all about the power -- all of it.


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